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  • Motor Mile Finance Again

    Hi,

    I would like some advice to give to my fiancee.

    She bought a car on finance in October 2007 with British Credit Trust and due to certain circumstances was only able to make a few payments. The car was then given back to the finance company on her behalf (I don't have the full story, I wasn't around then, but she was unable to do anything regarding this 'handback')

    She never heard anything from anybody until about 2 months ago when letters started arriving from MMF.

    They were asking for £7142.19 (the original finance was £4800 plus fees and interest)

    After a few of these, she wrote to MMF and asked for all relevant documentation regarding their Deed of Assignment.

    She has today received a letter back from MMF stating that they have provided all documentation and enclosing a raft of letters. They included:

    The original Credit Agreement dated October 2007 plus copies of related documents handed to BCT at the time.
    A letter headed 'Gothia' showing they had sold debts on 15/5/06; 28/4/08 and 31/7/08 to MMF and/or UK Search Ltd This is signed and dated July 2011
    A non letter headed letter supposedly from BCT entitled NOTIFICATION OF BALANCE OUTSTANDING this letter is dated 2/9/08. This was never originally received by her at all. It also shows how the current debt is calculated:

    Total Amount Payable: £8354.15
    Less payments rec'd: £141.00
    Less Vehicle Sale Proceeds: £850.00

    Balance Outstanding: £7363.15

    Now there are a few things that don't appear right to me...

    The 'Notice of Balance Outstanding' is on plain paper and not letter headed BCT paper. (all other BCT docs are headed) It could have been written by anyone. It has a 'computer' signature and is allegedly from 'Debt Recovery Department'
    The Vehicle Sale Proceeds are incredibly low, I know a little about vehicle disposal as I was in the motor trade for 10 years. Even at auction, the value would have been higher.
    There are no details of where and when the vehicle was disposed of and no proof of the disposal price.
    The 'NOBO' letter is dated September 08 whereupon the Deed of Assigments showed debts bought were for earlier dates....why was BCT still chasing if they had sold the debt?

    I am not sure if my thinking is correct, but it doesn't all seem legit to me.

    She acknowledges there probably is a debt (not to MMF though!) but wants the figures to add up and the dates to tally before she does anything else.

    Can anyone let me know if my 'queries' with the paperwork are justified or is that how things work?
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  • #2
    Re: Motor Mile Finance Again

    was the car on h/p and if so roughly how much did she pay back before returning the car?

    I am gonna highlight this to a very good friend of mine if I may.. this is interesting.

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    • #3
      Re: Motor Mile Finance Again

      my old friends next to welcome

      tell me , how did you finance the vehicle, on line, dealership or broker

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      • #4
        Re: Motor Mile Finance Again

        Hi,

        The vehicle was bought under a Hire Purchase Agreement and 3 months payments were made in total. The agreement then fell into arrears by 3 months and the car was re-possessed. Apologies if this changes things, but I am trying to grab facts as I go along!

        Edited to add:

        It was bought through an online company who collected her to go and view the vehicle at a dealership.

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        • #5
          Re: Motor Mile Finance Again

          Who was the online company

          was it a company called credit plus

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          • #6
            Re: Motor Mile Finance Again

            ok dont worry, its just when the experts come its best to have the facts.

            May I ask you to try and get timeline of events, and the original creditors details to give us an outline.

            If you have a scanner, it may be useful to upload the papers (fiannce's details obscures, and account numbers etc obscured ) if you need help with uploading, just call out for someone and we will talk you through it.

            p

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            • #7
              Re: Motor Mile Finance Again

              Thanks again for replying guys...

              The credit agreement shows that the original company was Motor Car Credit in Northwich.

              Puff, I have a scanner but it doesn't work with Win 7

              Timeline of events:

              Car bought in October 2007 no deposit paid. No part Ex. (which makes me think that the vehicle purchase price was maybe inflated to cover one or the other - a motor trade 'trick')

              3 months payments made
              3 months payments missed

              Car then re-possessed by BCT although money was available to bring payments up to date, it was apparently too late to stop repo.

              Nothing then until letters started arriving from MMF (she ignored the first few and I didn't know about them) None were recorded delivery.

              Then last week a doorstep call from a MMF rep handing over a 'pay it all now or agree terms in 5 days letter.

              Letter to MMF requesting all details but not acknowledging debt sent last week.

              Latest batch of docs with letter threatening legal arrived today.

              I think that's about it.

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              • #8
                Re: Motor Mile Finance Again

                Who was it who took you to the motor dealer

                who introduced you to the dealer

                company name please

                its very important

                WHO WAS THIS ONLINE COMPANY

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                • #9
                  Re: Motor Mile Finance Again

                  Miliitant...

                  The online company was Motor Car Credit. They arranged a taxi to their premises. Apparently it wasn't a separate dealer, it was Motor Car Credit premises in Northwich. My Fiancee doesn't know a lot about garages and assumed it was a dealer.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Motor Mile Finance Again

                    The normal routine with bct is that a thid party arranges the finance with bct

                    did you have to pay any extra charges such as a delivery fee for example

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                    • #11
                      Re: Motor Mile Finance Again

                      No delivery fee or extra charges appear in the paperwork and she knows nothing about any other charges being levied.

                      A quick google search I did shows Motor Car Credit as Finance Brokers, so I would guess they are the 3rd party. Their website is non functional now and companies house don't list them. I don't know if they are still active.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Motor Mile Finance Again

                        Motor Car Credit have a distinctly not good google presence. Their only online review is very negative.

                        I wonder if they had a Consumer Credit Licence??
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                        • #13
                          Re: Motor Mile Finance Again

                          Shovels out Millitant.

                          Motorcar credit northwich ... Details as follows.

                          70-78 OLD WARRINGTON ROAD
                          CW9 5LH NORTHWICH, CHESHIRE

                          Phone: 0800 195 6797
                          Fax: 01606 334410
                          Website obsoltete.

                          Post up again once I have more.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Motor Mile Finance Again

                            Just found out that Motor Car Credit folded and was restarted under the name Premier Car Credit, same address in Old Warrington Road, Northwich.

                            ETA:

                            Company details here

                            https://www.duedil.com/company/05327...credit-limited

                            How does this impact the current situation though?
                            Last edited by silvagod; 22nd November 2012, 20:28:PM.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Motor Mile Finance Again

                              The plot thickens, keep digging

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