Marstons-TV licence!!

[bluebottle]

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Where a bailiff shouts their mouth off outside a debtor's home, disclosing the fact they owe money and other personal information, this is a breach of the Data Protection Act 1998 per se and should not only be reported to the bailiff's employers, but the creditor and, ultimately, the Information Commissioner's Office (ICO), also.

The ICO has the power to fine those who breach the DPA up to £500,000 and is not afraid to use this power. The highest fine imposed by the ICO, to date, is £480,000.

[meellis]

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I cannot understand where you find clips of bailiffs behaving badly on u-tube. There was somebody representing bailiffs on Jeremy Vine (radio 2) yesterday and he clearly stated that there were no clips to be found on u-tube only clips of badly behaved debtors.

[bizzybob]

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I cannot understand where you find clips of bailiffs behaving badly on u-tube. There was somebody representing bailiffs on Jeremy Vine (radio 2) yesterday and he clearly stated that there were no clips to be found on u-tube only clips of badly behaved debtors.

Come come remember

Rule 1 BAILIFFS LIE

Rule 2 Refer to Rule 1

Rest assured they do behave badly, Jacobs for instance are great at removing and selling third party vehicles, as per the VolksWorld saga about the wrongly taken and sold VW camper they had to buy back to give to the rightful owner, JBW taking tcars from the new owner due to DVLA not processing change of keeper in a timely manner.

I see the situation becoming worse, as unlike the bailiff industry saying interpleader will be rare, I see it becoming ststus quo and innocents losing cars as they cannot afford the cost which will be eye watering and likely need a loan to be taken out to pay them in many cases.

[bluebottle]

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I cannot understand where you find clips of bailiffs behaving badly on u-tube. There was somebody representing bailiffs on Jeremy Vine (radio 2) yesterday and he clearly stated that there were no clips to be found on u-tube only clips of badly behaved debtors.

It wasn't that guy who's the chair of the Civil Enforcement Association, was it? I've seen him on TV denying bailiffs misbehave and it's only debtors who misbehave. He's either disingenuous or deluded.

If you put "Bailiffs Behaving Badly" or "Bailiffs Abusing Their Powers" into YouTube's own search engine, you will get clips aplenty of bailiffs being tits, Trans World Airlines Teadrinkers and idiots. The bleats of "You can't film me," really are pathetic.

[bizzybob]

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It wasn't that guy who's the chair of the Civil Enforcement Association, was it? I've seen him on TV denying bailiffs misbehave and it's only debtors who misbehave. He's either disingenuous or deluded.

If you put "Bailiffs Behaving Badly" or "Bailiffs Abusing Their Powers" into YouTube's own search engine, you will get clips aplenty of bailiffs being tits, Trans World Airlines Teadrinkers and idiots. The bleats of "You can't film me," especially when they are wearing a bodycam themselves really are pathetic.s

IFYPFY

As to CIVEA I can see them being exposed in the media as chharlatans soon.if they are not careful which EA's they support when the crap hits the fan a month or two into the new regime.

[bluebottle]

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Come come remember

Rule 1 BAILIFFS LIE

Rule 2 Refer to Rule 1

Rest assured they do behave badly, Jacobs for instance are great at removing and selling third party vehicles, as per the VolksWorld saga about the wrongly taken and sold VW camper they had to buy back to give to the rightful owner, JBW taking tcars from the new owner due to DVLA not processing change of keeper in a timely manner.

I see the situation becoming worse, as unlike the bailiff industry saying interpleader will be rare, I see it becoming ststus quo and innocents losing cars as they cannot afford the cost which will be eye watering and likely need a loan to be taken out to pay them in many cases.

I feel you have a point about a number of innocent third parties losing their vehicles, but if you look at the N16A Injunction Application Form I've attached, you will see it has provision to address human rights issues relating to the reasons for the injunction application. If pleadings and skeleton arguments are made correctly, it could be "Game Over" for any attempts to force third parties to interpleader or "Game Over" for the interpleader altogether, as a County Court has the power to strike down (bring to an end) any secondary legislation or provision, which the new regulations are.

[bizzybob]

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Thanks BB, So long as the correct sections of HRA the Taking Control of the third party vehicle breaches, AND the innocent can afford the cost of the injunction, it could well be game over Problem will be during the (in)famous Police/Bailiff ANPR, where all innocent has is a scribbled receipt and an insurance cert/cover note, I feel bailiff will move for interpleader as DVLA show old keeper, car having changed hands a week or less ago, That is the greatest weakness of these busted-ass interpleaders, and under the new regime the plod are supposed to HELP the EA.

[bluebottle]

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It is my understanding that noises are being made in certain circles with regard to the use of ANPR and restricting its use. So the likes of JBW, other bailiff companies and non-governmental bodies who use it may be forced to remove the equipment from their vans. Parking Eye and other PPCs who use it are likely to be affected if they are stopped from using ANPR equipment.

[wales01man]

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I think most of us would agree the use of ANPR by the police for crime detection is a good thing a driver stopped by Police using one is acceptable A private company posting images weeks after the event is not acceptable as is the DVLA selling vehicle owners details to this companies its one thing and one thing only for them a quick buck from innocent and in regards the the legality of the charge ignorant.

[Dolly duke]

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Please have a look on YouTube and type in bailiff leaves after given basic education in law,this is a marstons bully boy threatening all kinds! That a locksmith and the police were going to turn up in the morning,needless to say if you read the comments below the video clip no bailiff,no police or locksmith turned up the following morning!!!!

[bizzybob]

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Please have a look on YouTube and type in bailiff leaves after given basic education in law,this is a marstons bully boy threatening all kinds! That a locksmith and the police were going to turn up in the morning,needless to say if you read the comments below the video clip no bailiff,no police or locksmith turned up the following morning!!!!

Dolly the NOTE mentioned in the window is a Notice of Removal of Implied Right of Access, and is useless, but the guy also was pushing dubious Fremman on the Land concepts, Be very careful indeed. The bailiff as he is calling on behalf of the court so can not be a trespasser, and to be fair to Marstons, in this instance the bailiff was not threatening and was actually quite reasonable on the face of it. There are however others where they have been violent and in those cases they need locking up.

[meellis]

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I was shouting at the radio yesterday when this person was spouting his tripe about the lack of clips on u-tube. One of the problems with this whole industry is they will perpetuate the myth that all debtors are people who won't pay and because of the way the majority of people believe debtors are responsible for their own situation they can get away with it. There is no distinction between the can't pay's and the won't pay's so people are left to believe that the majority of debtors are to busy spending their government supplied money on non essentials like beer and fags instead of the essentials. I think some people still find it hard to believe that decent hard working people can still find themselves in debt.

[bizzybob]

Re: Marstons-TV licence!!

I was shouting at the radio yesterday when this person was spouting his tripe about the lack of clips on u-tube. One of the problems with this whole industry is they will perpetuate the myth that all debtors are people who won't pay and because of the way the majority of people believe debtors are responsible for their own situation they can get away with it. There is no distinction between the can't pay's and the won't pay's so people are left to believe that the majority of debtors are to busy spending their government supplied money on non essentials like beer and fags instead of the essentials. I think some people still find it hard to believe that decent hard working people on minimum wage can still find themselves in debt due to tax credit reductions and increased cost of living including extortionate council tax bills.

IFYPFY

I share your anger and annoyance of the lumping to gether of all debtors as wont pays when clearly for many if not most the enforcement system makes things worse by increasing the debt until it is completely unaffordable to repay,

[meellis]

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That really seems to be the problem nowadays, instead of helping people eliminate their debts in a controlled and realistic manner the intent always seems to be to increase them which is self defeating. I ended up in debt after trying to build a company and employ people all through hard work and long hours. maybe I was unfortunate but the more I see how I have been robbed by the financial industry and by doing things by the book the more I wonder whether it was all worth it. it is not just the low paid or unemployed who suffer it is mainly the honest who try to do everything required.

[russelldash]

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Hello after taking marstons to court on a form 4 complaint and having Mark Scott certificate revoked at oxford
My advice would be to issue a form 4 complaint now
Firstly TV licence carry's an arrest warrant and Marstons have been found to scare children with threats of calling police on single mums

He has no right to enter your home don't let him in and use reasonable
false to stop him
This may be with a milk bottle over the head if near the door (Case Law)


Find what court who issued the warrant and ask them for a form 4 you will find that the court will try to make out that it does not know what you are talking about be strong and ask for the court manager if he or she does not give you a form 4 than ask to make a complaint about the court this works Trust

If you are allowed to private massage me I know of a company who will no win no fee with these matters and your case looks like 60/40 from what I read
However from September last year Marstons have orderd there Balliffs to have body cams ask for a copy
trust this helps
russell