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Hi, new to the forum, thanks for any help in advance.
OK background.
4 years ago, i bought my partner a car a Daewoo matiz , after having the car for a month, i realised that it was not the right car for my partner and needed some work doing to it which i didnt feel i wanted to do, so i put the car back up for sale and sold it on to a car dealer, filling out the slip and sending the slip off with the new registrants details on etc etc .
i then proceeded to forget about it, until we received a PCN notice through the post from london borough of barking and dagenham........
and thus started this epic marathon to try to prove we didn`t own this vehicle at the time of the infraction.
i started by ringin the LBBD (london borough barking.....) who stated that according to their records it was my partner who owned the vehicle at the time and so it was her who was responsible for the fine and that i should contact DVLA to see what they say. The DVLA who initially (for about 2 months) categorically stated that my partner had never even been on record as owning the vehicle ever, let alone when the infraction was dated, eventually they came through after me complaining to there head of complaints, who wrote me a nice letter stating that it was a clerical error on there part and that there records had been amended to show me as not owning the vehicle at the time of the infraction, they even sent me a ltter explaining that:
i disposed of the vehicle on the 19th june 2008
the infraction occurred on the 24th june 2008
I then went back to london borough of barking and dagenham and explained this, sending them copys of the letters etc etc.
3 weeks later i received a letter from them, basically saying (and this is nearly 100% verbatim)
"we have looked at the evidence you have provided but feel you are still liable for the PCN............."
How they came to this conclusion i do not know, but i pursued and finally rung got through to them again but they basically said i was liable for it...
I cannot remember exactly why i ended up ringing the magistrates court as this was such a long time ago, but the woman i spoke to basically said that the best thing for me to do would be to "statutary out of time" (i think thats what it was) and she said she would send me some forms to fill in and that i could then get it reviewed by a judge / magistrate who would look at the evidence and rule on it.
This i did, and i have a letter here stating that the court found in my favour and cancelled the origina charge. I also received a letter from LBBD stating that they no longer wish to pursue the matter AT THIS TIME
I have attached the letetrs that i have, i donot have the letter from LBBD though.
I started receiving letters from JBWgroup a few months ago and have thus far ignored them, however the frequency and threats have gained and today i received one from them that they say was hand delivered.............
it states this information only (apart from there usual terms, i.e. pay now, avoid being murdered etc etc)
date: 06/02/2012 00:00
balance before todays visit : £206.44
attendance to levy fee £68.40
attendance to remove fee £210.00
total balance now due £484.84
now all this is printed, on the envelope it states hand delivered, but has nothing `wrote` on it, so if they are trying to say that they are charging an extra £278.40 as they have actually been to my premises, then surely this would of been wrote on the letter, unless they have a laser printer in there van, and also the only time stated on the letter is midnight (which they certainly didnt come).
Another thing is on my house i have 4 CCTV cameras , i left my house at 8:40am and arrived back at 11:40 am, and the only person to come on my property within this time was the postman, so they havent actually been at all.
surely this is wrong? they are lying for a start.
I have just emailed the DVLA again asking for confirmation from them and clarification on the matter.
OK so my questions are:
What do i do now? Do i contact LBBD or the debt recovery agency, i am reluctant to contact these shiesters as it may be subject bart are coming up for it, and i know if they receive correspondance then they can renew there efforts to the full.
Where do i stand?
LBBD through out this whole matter have been completely unco-operative and non plussed.
please help
many thanks in advance..
OK background.
4 years ago, i bought my partner a car a Daewoo matiz , after having the car for a month, i realised that it was not the right car for my partner and needed some work doing to it which i didnt feel i wanted to do, so i put the car back up for sale and sold it on to a car dealer, filling out the slip and sending the slip off with the new registrants details on etc etc .
i then proceeded to forget about it, until we received a PCN notice through the post from london borough of barking and dagenham........
and thus started this epic marathon to try to prove we didn`t own this vehicle at the time of the infraction.
i started by ringin the LBBD (london borough barking.....) who stated that according to their records it was my partner who owned the vehicle at the time and so it was her who was responsible for the fine and that i should contact DVLA to see what they say. The DVLA who initially (for about 2 months) categorically stated that my partner had never even been on record as owning the vehicle ever, let alone when the infraction was dated, eventually they came through after me complaining to there head of complaints, who wrote me a nice letter stating that it was a clerical error on there part and that there records had been amended to show me as not owning the vehicle at the time of the infraction, they even sent me a ltter explaining that:
i disposed of the vehicle on the 19th june 2008
the infraction occurred on the 24th june 2008
I then went back to london borough of barking and dagenham and explained this, sending them copys of the letters etc etc.
3 weeks later i received a letter from them, basically saying (and this is nearly 100% verbatim)
"we have looked at the evidence you have provided but feel you are still liable for the PCN............."
How they came to this conclusion i do not know, but i pursued and finally rung got through to them again but they basically said i was liable for it...
I cannot remember exactly why i ended up ringing the magistrates court as this was such a long time ago, but the woman i spoke to basically said that the best thing for me to do would be to "statutary out of time" (i think thats what it was) and she said she would send me some forms to fill in and that i could then get it reviewed by a judge / magistrate who would look at the evidence and rule on it.
This i did, and i have a letter here stating that the court found in my favour and cancelled the origina charge. I also received a letter from LBBD stating that they no longer wish to pursue the matter AT THIS TIME
I have attached the letetrs that i have, i donot have the letter from LBBD though.
I started receiving letters from JBWgroup a few months ago and have thus far ignored them, however the frequency and threats have gained and today i received one from them that they say was hand delivered.............
it states this information only (apart from there usual terms, i.e. pay now, avoid being murdered etc etc)
date: 06/02/2012 00:00
balance before todays visit : £206.44
attendance to levy fee £68.40
attendance to remove fee £210.00
total balance now due £484.84
now all this is printed, on the envelope it states hand delivered, but has nothing `wrote` on it, so if they are trying to say that they are charging an extra £278.40 as they have actually been to my premises, then surely this would of been wrote on the letter, unless they have a laser printer in there van, and also the only time stated on the letter is midnight (which they certainly didnt come).
Another thing is on my house i have 4 CCTV cameras , i left my house at 8:40am and arrived back at 11:40 am, and the only person to come on my property within this time was the postman, so they havent actually been at all.
surely this is wrong? they are lying for a start.
I have just emailed the DVLA again asking for confirmation from them and clarification on the matter.
OK so my questions are:
What do i do now? Do i contact LBBD or the debt recovery agency, i am reluctant to contact these shiesters as it may be subject bart are coming up for it, and i know if they receive correspondance then they can renew there efforts to the full.
Where do i stand?
LBBD through out this whole matter have been completely unco-operative and non plussed.
please help
many thanks in advance..
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