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Re: That referendum ...
The courts in the UK appoint judges, they're not voted in. In the UK, we have a Parliament Supreme Constitution. The people vote the Commons in; the Lords are appointed for their experience or they previously inherited their place subject to Labour's reforms. The EU Commissioners (Executive of the EU institution) are appointed from the member state government (ie Executive member of the UK's government branch), or heads of state, by the EU organisation for their experience, albeit to benefit the EU's system and not UK Parliament's, which according to A V Dicey (public law Victorian professor) is to serve the people. The people in a general election do not vote members into Parliament (ie the Government as well as the rest of the Commoners) on the condition that they may be appointed as EU Commissioners. MPs are appointed on the condition that they make laws as the UK's legislator in Parliament to serve the UK's citizens solely. We therefore could not know the potential EU Commissioners' brand of politics at the general election so they're not elected for that reason in that sense.
The Constitution of the EU is not a Parliament Supremacy type as per the UK's. MEPs (EU Member of Parliament) is a separate process; but a bit like the Commoners in that they're elected as quasi legislators but not for the interests of the UK's 60 plus million population, but rather representing the between state (member state) interests of the EU's institutions, or indirectly the - to an extent - affected 500 EU citizens by the EU's institutions. I use quasi because the real power in the UK is in government just like the real power in the EU's constitution is the Commission. The EU Commission - as the Executive of the EU institution - are appointed to ensure the EU's Treaties are adhered to. The MEPs are not appointed to make EU Treaty law but are elected probably to have a say in potentially primary EU legislation as Regulation but probably more likely secondary EU legislation such as ie Directives. EU Treaties, EU Regulations, ECJ decisions have automatic effect on the UK's legal system. EU Directives are secondary legislation so are not automatically binding on the UK but they must serve 'a desired effect' of the EU.
Originally posted by Amethyst
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The Constitution of the EU is not a Parliament Supremacy type as per the UK's. MEPs (EU Member of Parliament) is a separate process; but a bit like the Commoners in that they're elected as quasi legislators but not for the interests of the UK's 60 plus million population, but rather representing the between state (member state) interests of the EU's institutions, or indirectly the - to an extent - affected 500 EU citizens by the EU's institutions. I use quasi because the real power in the UK is in government just like the real power in the EU's constitution is the Commission. The EU Commission - as the Executive of the EU institution - are appointed to ensure the EU's Treaties are adhered to. The MEPs are not appointed to make EU Treaty law but are elected probably to have a say in potentially primary EU legislation as Regulation but probably more likely secondary EU legislation such as ie Directives. EU Treaties, EU Regulations, ECJ decisions have automatic effect on the UK's legal system. EU Directives are secondary legislation so are not automatically binding on the UK but they must serve 'a desired effect' of the EU.
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