OFT Test Case on Bank Charges ......from House of Lords to Supreme Court

[lighterman34]

Re: TODAY at the House of Lords - OFT v Banks latest news

Just spoken to them - should know after 3pm.

Any news on the HoL listings?
Do we get their judgement before they go on vacation?

[EXC]

Re: TODAY at the House of Lords - OFT v Banks latest news

The judgment isn't listed for next week I'm afraid so it'll be anytime from the beginning of October when the House of Lords judiciary re-emerges as The Supreme Court.

It is still possible the court can decide to referr it to Europe (As the final words of Lord Phillips in the appeal hearing was '' The Committee is grateful to counsel for their submissions and, subject to the possibility of a reference to Europe, will report their opinions to the House in due course'') and this would be announced when judgment is handed down

[showergirl]

Re: TODAY at the House of Lords - OFT v Banks latest news

The judgment isn't listed for next week I'm afraid so it'll be anytime from the beginning of October when the House of Lords judiciary re-emerges as The Supreme Court.

It is still possible the court can decide to referr it to Europe (As the final words of Lord Phillips in the appeal hearing was '' The Committee is grateful to counsel for their submissions and, subject to the possibility of a reference to Europe, will report their opinions to the House in due course'') and this would be announced when judgment is handed down

Thanks for letting us know.

I can see me getting my pension before this is over

[natweststaffmember]

Re: TODAY at the House of Lords - OFT v Banks latest news

In that case, I think I will speculate that the OFT will win and they will lose part of the secondary issues which will make some fees fair
Furthermore, the House of Lords will NOT give out the Judgement and I will soon be able to prove that definitvely

Mystic Banker has got the first part right cos The Supreme Court will give out the judgement

[enaid]

Re: TODAY at the House of Lords - OFT v Banks latest news

Mystic Banker has got the first part right cos The Supreme Court will give out the judgement

Nowt worse than a clever dog with, glass balls imho lol

[Bankstormer]

Re: TODAY at the House of Lords - OFT v Banks latest news

The judgment isn't listed for next week I'm afraid so it'll be anytime from the beginning of October when the House of Lords judiciary re-emerges as The Supreme Court.

Where can we find the listings?

Would you post a link please.

[Amethyst]

Re: TODAY at the House of Lords - OFT v Banks latest news

http://www.parliament.uk/documents/u...ittingsNWP.pdf
http://www.parliament.uk/documents/u...entSitting.pdf

Or you phone the Judicial office 020 7219 3111.
email holjudicialoffice@parliament.uk

t'is all on the uk parliment site if that helps


after summer not entirely sure whats occuring but I assume it will switch to being on the supreme court site - United Kingdom Supreme Court - Ministry of Justice

[EXC]

Re: TODAY at the House of Lords - OFT v Banks latest news

Where can we find the listings?

Would you post a link please.

The listings for judgments for next week are yet to be published but won't include the OFT case.

The 'Next Week's Programme' that Ame posted the link for will be fully updated on Monday. http://www.parliament.uk/business/ju...l_business.cfm

[natweststaffmember]

Re: TODAY at the House of Lords - OFT v Banks latest news

I see we have the transcripts so that will keep me busy over the weekend

[righty]

Re: TODAY at the House of Lords - OFT v Banks latest news

Swine Flu victims have nicked all the large mammal tranqs and I'm happy today so anythings good lol.

Good news in all respects in my view - this combined with the FOI stuff I got last week I feel much better about the FSA.

Ame Please explain

Also in the waiver "if one exists". needless to say it won't

[Amethyst]

Re: TODAY at the House of Lords - OFT v Banks latest news

Re If one exists - some do some don't, some its just collections team. Nats has been working on a list with phone numbers so nudge for Nats on that.

Not sure which bit you want me to explain, but I am quite happy with the waiver being renewed because for it to have been lifted now would have been a really really stupid move. The FOI stuff we got shows that despite initial feelings the FSA were disorganised and simply paying lipservice with the monitoring malarky - with their refusal to give details of complaints of waiver breaches under FOI cost limit excuses and their various departments - they have actually paid visits to 7 firms and conducted a thorough review of their compliance and handling of complaints. We still have some more FOI stuff awaited which should give more detailed info - I have posted what we have thus far in the FSA forum.

And if its the Swine flu bit lol, then I get overexcited about pointless things

[natweststaffmember]

Re: TODAY at the House of Lords - OFT v Banks latest news

swine flu??? I thought you mentioned that to me yesterday like "wouldn't it be funny if nattiepig got it?" Is that any help ?

[righty]

Re: TODAY at the House of Lords - OFT v Banks latest news

I understand your comments Ame but probably cos I is older than you I'm much more of a cynic. ie Visits by appointment have never impressed me as being a guarantee that supervision will be rigorous enough to discover the reality

[Amethyst]

Re: TODAY at the House of Lords - OFT v Banks latest news

I agree, and no its not great, but its better than we thought originally - in their original response it stated the only monitoring was for firms who thought they had breached the waiver to tell the FSA themselves, which is a bit shoddy.

Also allowing the banks to select the cases they show the FSA is a bit annoying. Better that they just had copletely random checks - don't suppose mystery shopping would work tho lol

Anyway I try look at the positives.

[righty]

Re: TODAY at the House of Lords - OFT v Banks latest news

Comment just received

"a space among the 12-strong Supreme Court justices for October. Sumption, surely?