Re: BMW Financial Services - Voluntary Termination/Excess Mileage
Morning,
Having read your post properly [MENTION=108251]KurtCrisco[/MENTION], it seems as if the case officer is taking a restrictive view, if not literal of the 2016 guidance. We must all remember that the guidance is just that and is not binding in law and it does not cover every intended consequence of unfairly or unlawfully processing someone's personal data.
I am rather surprised given that the case officer conceded that if BMW had issued a default then it would qualify as unfair processing but refuses to accept that recording sums made up of fees or charges as late or something else is not unfair processing. It seems to me that all roads lead to the same conclusion which is that the recording of outstanding fees or charges is unfair and/or unlawful processing.
If BMW were to continue recording the charges each month it would eventually lead to a default (8 missed payments is it? or 6?), thus considered unfair. If BMW also record the charges but then start changing the code for so it does not flag up as a default, that is also unfair and an abuse of the system. Equally, if they continue to record the charges as missed consecutively each month but then stop short of 1 month to avoid it being recorded as a default, that also in my mind would be an abuse of the system and also unfair processing.
Then there is also the argument that recorded the charges as missed payments is inaccurate because the charges do not form any part of the credit agreement and so it is giving the effect that you have missed a number of payments under the agreement, but in fact the agreement was actually terminated some time ago. The whole purpose of having a credit file and the credit reference agencies retaining your information is to allow lenders to make a decision on how likely you are going to be able to make the repayments if they offered you credit. In my view it is inherently wrong to report sums made up solely of fees or charges as it gives the wrong impression to the lender and suggests that you are unlikely to meet your monthly instalments - particularly if you have several months reported as missed under a agreement. The result is that the lender is either going to reject your application for credit or offer you credit but at a much higher interest rate than one might expect if those missed payments were not recorded.
Going back to the case officer's view, I think he needs to take a pragmatic view of this. If a lender should not be recording a default for fees or charges, then the pragmatic and logical view is that it should also not record fees or charges as missed payments. In terms of your options, I think you've pretty much exhausted all options except for issuing legal proceedings.
I am not sure if you have a telephone contact for the case officer but perhaps you may want to speak to him again and re-iterate some of the points made here and try to get him to answer your questions or provide an explanation. If he declines to answer or explain some or all of your questions then ask for him to provide his assessment in writing so you have evidence of his decision. At that point you could take it further and perhaps write to Elizabeth Denham who is the Information Commissioner and explain that you feel the assessment made by the case offer (and insert their name if you know) has made a fundamental error which is having a detrimental effect to yourself and perhaps ask for a review by someone more senior who is able to see outside of the four corners of the SCOR document. Of course don't expect to receive a response from her, maybe one of her team or maybe no response at all but you can at least give it a go and see what happens.
If not, then the last step is legal proceedings. If you do intend to go down this route then it is possible to claim at least £750 compensation based on previous case law but as BMW have refused to remove the recordings from your credit file then it is further aggravated matters and you could seek something a bit higher than that, perhaps up to £1,500 maybe more but it is a bit of a guess and depending on how much your claiming will determine how much you pay for application fees. Anything under £10,000 will likely result in the small claims track which means costs are extremely limited, though there is a possibility BMW may argue for it to be moved to another track where legal costs could be recoverable but I would think this is a very straightforward, non-complex matter which can be decided under the small claims track.
You ought to be aware that if you do choose to bring a claim, there is a possibility that BMW may counterclaim for the outstanding sums that they think is owed, and which you will need to put in a defence and/or argue that those sums being claim should be offset by the compensation you seek to claim. Always a risk in going to court, and nobody I know has decided to have the balls to take on BMW yet or any other lender in relation to this type of scenario so you are leaving it in the hands of a judge who may or may not agree with you but that is a decision you will need to consider and take yourself in the knowledge of potential risks that may be involved.
Morning,
Having read your post properly [MENTION=108251]KurtCrisco[/MENTION], it seems as if the case officer is taking a restrictive view, if not literal of the 2016 guidance. We must all remember that the guidance is just that and is not binding in law and it does not cover every intended consequence of unfairly or unlawfully processing someone's personal data.
I am rather surprised given that the case officer conceded that if BMW had issued a default then it would qualify as unfair processing but refuses to accept that recording sums made up of fees or charges as late or something else is not unfair processing. It seems to me that all roads lead to the same conclusion which is that the recording of outstanding fees or charges is unfair and/or unlawful processing.
If BMW were to continue recording the charges each month it would eventually lead to a default (8 missed payments is it? or 6?), thus considered unfair. If BMW also record the charges but then start changing the code for so it does not flag up as a default, that is also unfair and an abuse of the system. Equally, if they continue to record the charges as missed consecutively each month but then stop short of 1 month to avoid it being recorded as a default, that also in my mind would be an abuse of the system and also unfair processing.
Then there is also the argument that recorded the charges as missed payments is inaccurate because the charges do not form any part of the credit agreement and so it is giving the effect that you have missed a number of payments under the agreement, but in fact the agreement was actually terminated some time ago. The whole purpose of having a credit file and the credit reference agencies retaining your information is to allow lenders to make a decision on how likely you are going to be able to make the repayments if they offered you credit. In my view it is inherently wrong to report sums made up solely of fees or charges as it gives the wrong impression to the lender and suggests that you are unlikely to meet your monthly instalments - particularly if you have several months reported as missed under a agreement. The result is that the lender is either going to reject your application for credit or offer you credit but at a much higher interest rate than one might expect if those missed payments were not recorded.
Going back to the case officer's view, I think he needs to take a pragmatic view of this. If a lender should not be recording a default for fees or charges, then the pragmatic and logical view is that it should also not record fees or charges as missed payments. In terms of your options, I think you've pretty much exhausted all options except for issuing legal proceedings.
I am not sure if you have a telephone contact for the case officer but perhaps you may want to speak to him again and re-iterate some of the points made here and try to get him to answer your questions or provide an explanation. If he declines to answer or explain some or all of your questions then ask for him to provide his assessment in writing so you have evidence of his decision. At that point you could take it further and perhaps write to Elizabeth Denham who is the Information Commissioner and explain that you feel the assessment made by the case offer (and insert their name if you know) has made a fundamental error which is having a detrimental effect to yourself and perhaps ask for a review by someone more senior who is able to see outside of the four corners of the SCOR document. Of course don't expect to receive a response from her, maybe one of her team or maybe no response at all but you can at least give it a go and see what happens.
If not, then the last step is legal proceedings. If you do intend to go down this route then it is possible to claim at least £750 compensation based on previous case law but as BMW have refused to remove the recordings from your credit file then it is further aggravated matters and you could seek something a bit higher than that, perhaps up to £1,500 maybe more but it is a bit of a guess and depending on how much your claiming will determine how much you pay for application fees. Anything under £10,000 will likely result in the small claims track which means costs are extremely limited, though there is a possibility BMW may argue for it to be moved to another track where legal costs could be recoverable but I would think this is a very straightforward, non-complex matter which can be decided under the small claims track.
You ought to be aware that if you do choose to bring a claim, there is a possibility that BMW may counterclaim for the outstanding sums that they think is owed, and which you will need to put in a defence and/or argue that those sums being claim should be offset by the compensation you seek to claim. Always a risk in going to court, and nobody I know has decided to have the balls to take on BMW yet or any other lender in relation to this type of scenario so you are leaving it in the hands of a judge who may or may not agree with you but that is a decision you will need to consider and take yourself in the knowledge of potential risks that may be involved.
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