PRA group County Court Money Claim online

[MIKE770]

well they have a problem no doubt, see what court sends next

[Justme2021]

Hello

I received a letter and Small Claims Directions Questionnaire dated 21/10/21 from the County Court Business Centre.

On the first page it states;

" 1. This is now a defended claim.
The defendant has filed a defence.
2. It appears that this case is suitable for allocation to the small claims track.
If you believe that this track is not appropriate track for the claim, you must complete box C1 on the Small Claims Directions Questionnaire (Form N180) and explain why.
3. You must by 8 November 2021 complete the Small Claims Directions Questionnaire (Form N180) and file it with the court office (the County Court Business Centre, 4th Floor St Katherine's House...)
and serve copies on all other parties. "


Please help! also should I send via email or via post- recorded delivery?

Thank you

[MIKE770]

Celestine

[Celestine]

Bit odd that PRA want to proceed with claim despite not complying with your CCA/CPR requests. I suspect they are doing this because they know there are long delays in the courts currently and they'd rather risk it rumbling along than let it become 'stayed' (suspended indefinitely) for which they would have to pay further fees to lift the stay.
What year was the original debt account opened, with who, credit card? loan?

The N180 allocation questionnaire you have received, you should complete and post back to court recorded delivery (in case they lose it). You can post a copy (regular post) to opponent if you're feeling kind but nothing bad will happen if you dont!
Our guide to the questionnaire is here if you get stuck. https://legalbeagles.info/library/gu...questionnaire/

[Justme2021]

Bit odd that PRA want to proceed with claim despite not complying with your CCA/CPR requests. I suspect they are doing this because they know there are long delays in the courts currently and they'd rather risk it rumbling along than let it become 'stayed' (suspended indefinitely) for which they would have to pay further fees to lift the stay.
What year was the original debt account opened, with who, credit card? loan?

The N180 allocation questionnaire you have received, you should complete and post back to court recorded delivery (in case they lose it). You can post a copy (regular post) to opponent if you're feeling kind but nothing bad will happen if you dont!
Our guide to the questionnaire is here if you get stuck. https://legalbeagles.info/library/gu...questionnaire/

Thank you for your advice. Should I tick the box to agree for mediation, although will be a pointless exercise?

The original debt was with my bank, Halifax, was not a loan though, only used them for credit. There is a little more to the story!

Not received CCA and CPR requests, only acknowledgements that my letter for requests were received in July, 2021.

[Celestine]

Yes do tick that you agree to mediation - shows you are willing to resolve to the Jusge even if it achieves little in reality.

So, a credit card then? what year opened?

[Justme2021]

Yes do tick that you agree to mediation - shows you are willing to resolve to the Jusge even if it achieves little in reality.

So, a credit card then? what year opened?

Thank you! I have sent this recorded delivery today.

It was a bank I opened for credit around 2014.

[Justme2021]

Please help

It has been 2 years since I last heard from County Court regarding PRA's claim and have now received 2 letters dated 17/08/23 as follows;

"Notice of Transfer of Proceedings"

This states; "This claim has been transferred to the below County Court for allocation. On receipt, the file will be referred to a procedural judge who will allocate the claim to track and give case management directions. Details of the judge's directions will be sent to you in a notice of allocation...."


and "Directions Order"

Stating; " Before Deputy Judge Henley sitting at the County Court Business Centre, 4th Floor St Katherine's House, 21-27 St Katherine's Street, Northampton NN1 2LH.

It is ordered that:
1. Claim is re-instated
2. The case is transferred to.....County Court for allocation

Because this Order has been made on the application of a party without notice of the hearing being given, any other parties have the right to apply to have the Order set aside, varied or stayed. A party making such an application must send or deliver the application to the court (together with any appropriate fee) to arrive within seven days of service of this Order. If the application is one which requires a hearing, and
a) the party making the application is the Defendant; and
b) the Defendant is an individual,
then upon the filing of the application the claim will be transferred to the Defendant's home court. In all other cases requiring a hearing the claim will be transferred to the preferred court. "


An "N244 Application notice" was attached dated 21/04/2023 by PRA. Under question 3, it states "What order are you asking the court to make and why?" PRA answered, "The Claimant is requesting relief from any sanctions for the delay in responding to the Court order dated 29 November 2021."

Under question 5, it states "How do you want to have this application dealt with?" PRA ticked "without a hearing".

Under question 10, it states, "What information will you be relying on, in support of your application?" PRA ticked "the evidence set out in the box below" and then add;

"The Claimant is requesting relief from any sanctions for the delay in responding to the Court order dates 29 November 2021. The Notice of Proposed Allocation to Track has to date not been received on this matter. Due to internal systems issues and office address change in September 2022m the matter was picked up for review recently and the Claimant would like to request that the claim be re-instated.
No disrespect was intended towards the Court.
We thank you for your assistance. "

I really do not understand how PRA's claim has been allowed to be reinstated?

How do I respond please?, I have never received CCA and CPR requests, only acknowledgements that my letter for requests were received in July, 2021.

[Justme2021]

Thank you! I have sent this recorded delivery today.

It was a bank I opened for credit around 2014.

Please help

It has been 2 years since I last heard from County Court regarding PRA's claim and have now received 2 letters dated 17/08/23 as follows;

"Notice of Transfer of Proceedings"

This states; "This claim has been transferred to the below County Court for allocation. On receipt, the file will be referred to a procedural judge who will allocate the claim to track and give case management directions. Details of the judge's directions will be sent to you in a notice of allocation...."


and "Directions Order"

Stating; " Before Deputy Judge Henley sitting at the County Court Business Centre, 4th Floor St Katherine's House, 21-27 St Katherine's Street, Northampton NN1 2LH.

It is ordered that:
1. Claim is re-instated
2. The case is transferred to.....County Court for allocation

Because this Order has been made on the application of a party without notice of the hearing being given, any other parties have the right to apply to have the Order set aside, varied or stayed. A party making such an application must send or deliver the application to the court (together with any appropriate fee) to arrive within seven days of service of this Order. If the application is one which requires a hearing, and
a) the party making the application is the Defendant; and
b) the Defendant is an individual,
then upon the filing of the application the claim will be transferred to the Defendant's home court. In all other cases requiring a hearing the claim will be transferred to the preferred court. "


An "N244 Application notice" was attached dated 21/04/2023 by PRA. Under question 3, it states "What order are you asking the court to make and why?" PRA answered, "The Claimant is requesting relief from any sanctions for the delay in responding to the Court order dated 29 November 2021."

Under question 5, it states "How do you want to have this application dealt with?" PRA ticked "without a hearing".

Under question 10, it states, "What information will you be relying on, in support of your application?" PRA ticked "the evidence set out in the box below" and then add;

"The Claimant is requesting relief from any sanctions for the delay in responding to the Court order dates 29 November 2021. The Notice of Proposed Allocation to Track has to date not been received on this matter. Due to internal systems issues and office address change in September 2022m the matter was picked up for review recently and the Claimant would like to request that the claim be re-instated.
No disrespect was intended towards the Court.
We thank you for your assistance. "

I really do not understand how PRA's claim has been allowed to be reinstated?

How do I respond please?, I have never received CCA and CPR requests, only acknowledgements that my letter for requests were received in July, 2021.

[echat11]

Celestine Can you please advise.

[Justme2021]

Celestine Can you please advise.

I am very concerned that a response is required 7 days from service? If I need to respond, when would that be as received letters on 25/07/23?

[Justme2021]

Sorry I meant letters received 25/08/23

[echat11]

Sorry I meant letters received 25/08/23

I'm sure Celestine will respond when she can.

My take is you can 'have the Order (which is reinstating claim) set aside, varied or stayed'. There is a cost attached and you would need to fill in a N244, they haven't fulfilled your request for information CCA request etc. The only thing is, if they have it and send it to you then it could be counter productive.

The next step is that the Court will send you 'Notice of Proposed Allocation', that deals with mediation, providing you have received the requested documentation.

[Celestine]

How very bizarre indeed. It seems the claim 'may' have been struck out but I'm not sure from the communications received how that has happened. The claim can't have been stayed because they opted to defend and you received the Directions Questionnaire. There must have been issues with both the court and PRA simultaneously.
Given these very unusual circumstances, I would write to the court requesting the claim is NOT reinstated as they have not communicated anything to you, least of all your CCA responses. I'm trying to understand how your file has been 'lost' by PRA and that you heard nothing from the court regarding a hearing in 2021.
Their internal issues should not be allowed to prejudice you and you should express your confusion and discomfort at this sequence of events and PRA should not be granted relief from sanctions just because they are a bulk issuer of court claims; which is frankly abusive of the courts. However you should also state that the courts have not kept you updated either.
Keep us updated.

[Justme2021]

How very bizarre indeed. It seems the claim 'may' have been struck out but I'm not sure from the communications received how that has happened. The claim can't have been stayed because they opted to defend and you received the Directions Questionnaire. There must have been issues with both the court and PRA simultaneously.
Given these very unusual circumstances, I would write to the court requesting the claim is NOT reinstated as they have not communicated anything to you, least of all your CCA responses. I'm trying to understand how your file has been 'lost' by PRA and that you heard nothing from the court regarding a hearing in 2021.
Their internal issues should not be allowed to prejudice you and you should express your confusion and discomfort at this sequence of events and PRA should not be granted relief from sanctions just because they are a bulk issuer of court claims; which is frankly abusive of the courts. However you should also state that the courts have not kept you updated either.
Keep us updated.

Thank you so much for your detailed response.

Can I send an email? do you know the email address to send to at all please?

Is there an application I need to complete or can I just send an email adding the information you kindly provided to not reinstate the claim since there has been no communication since 2021.

It did state 7 days to file an application for the Order to be set aside, varied or stayed, which would mean deadline for myself is today or 01/09/23 as I received letters 25/08/23?