Rossendales Bailiffs Levied wrong car

[dilizjo]

Hi,
I am having trouble with the notorious Rossendales and on reading a lot of forums on the web realise that I am not the only one.
On speaking to someone at the council today I was told that they had levied my car which would account for a fee of £110 that I was completely unaware of.. When the council woman read out the registration number of the car levied it is not mine. I have not let them enter my home and know that they have not attended any time in a van so am rather confused as to where the added £110 and 40something pound levy fees have come from.
I have asked for a complete breakdown of charges but seem to be getting nowhere. I have been advised to write to the council giving them a complete breakdown of my incomings and outgoings and to make an offer in writing which I will be doing tomorrow.
My biggest worry is that they may try and levy my vehicle which I can't really hide away as I live on a country road and it is parked in a small car park, the car is registered disabled which is clearly shown on the tax disc as I have to take my disabled mother out in it. She actually bought the car for this purpose, would it be an idea to have a loan agreement written up between my mother and myself? or to pass the registration over to her? which may prove problematical regarding insurance.
Surely any charge should be proved by the bailiff that certain visits actually happened. I have never recieved any documentation from them that any levy had been carried out either.
Any input would be greatly appreciated and acted upon appropriately.
Thankyou

[Amy]

Re: Rossendales Bailiffs Levied wrong car

Is this in relation to council tax debt?

When you asked for a 'complete breakdown of charges' did you do this formally by way of a Subject Access Request? If so, when did you send it? If not have a read of the Bailiff Guide - Legal Beagles Consumer Forum for further information and for a link to our SAR.

They certainly should not levy on your car since it has a tax disc clearly displaying it is for the use of a disabled person, however, as you have found out, bailiffs (and in particular Rossendales) lie. As an aside to this, it is the duty of the debtor to prove that the vehicle levied belongs to someone else as opposed to the bailiff's duty to prove it belongs to you.

[Arrogant Duck]

Re: Rossendales Bailiffs Levied wrong car

I can't believe what a cowboy outfit Rossendales are! I'm in the same boat... They're trying to charge me a Levy Fee & Van Attendance Fee because they levied on a vehicle outside my property. The hilarious thing is that I don't own a vehicle and never have!!

[outlawlgo]

Re: Rossendales Bailiffs Levied wrong car

On speaking to someone at the council today I was told that they had levied my car which would account for a fee of £110 that I was completely unaware of.. When the council woman read out the registration number of the car levied it is not mine.

Hi dilizjo

There is a get out clause for the bailiff to say the onus is on you to prove the vehicle is not yours. But they need a valid reason as to why they believed it was your vehicle. Oh! and due to the fact you had no idea they had levied a vehicle in relation to your debt, that bit is unlawful too.

Rossendales can obtain "next day notification of vehicles owner details" from the DVLA so they don't have any excuse. They're more likely to contact the DVLA to confirm the debtor DOES NOT own the vehicle.

You have to remember that it is common practice for them to invent a vehicle or knowingly levy on a vehicle which is not the debtors, for the purpose of charging the levy fee and in your case a fraudulent £110 van fee.

Would you want to go to the trouble and expense of a recovery truck, when a simple form can raise a levy fee and a fraudulant £110 van fee (well the ones they get away with)? The bailiff is likely to be doing this to hundreds of others in your situation on the same day, and wouldn't be practical or cost effective to go removing vehicles of this quantity.

[dilizjo]

Re: Rossendales Bailiffs Levied wrong car

Thankyou for the replies guys. It amazes me that Rossendales and companies like them are allowed to carry on these illegal activities and we the public who seem to be left open to their bullying tactics and actually pay their wages (in theory) are their victims are not protected by strict government guidelines and rules.
I personnally hold the local councils responsible for thier actions as they tender the collections contract out to these horrendous examples of human beings and when confonted with people trying to say hey I will pay you directly say it is not possible to do that it is now in the Bailiffs hands when they know full well they are within their legal right to do so.
But maybe all of us that are out of work at the moment should become a certified bailiff and go stand in a car park (as they have with me) and just pick cars out to levy against anyone's debt and charge £110 van fee and the levy fee on top........ on second thoughts I have a concience and do like to obtain some peacefull sleep at night.
One last question.... the only paperwork I have is forms left on my doorstep not in my locked mailbox both have a signature of sorts on (a scrawl to be honest) totally illegible, should the name of the person be printed clearly so we actually know who has called?
Thanks for your time

[Caspar]

Re: Rossendales Bailiffs Levied wrong car

I'm surprised by something different. If I went out and found my car clamped for someone ele's debt I'd be on to Rossendales like a shot - why aren't the owners? I'd also be charging them for costs incurred and inconveience compensation. Then as the debtor I'd be getting the fee removed - then it costs them money and they might start being a bit more careful. Why don't we start getting the police involved for their the bailiff's criminal activities?

[WendyB]

Re: Rossendales Bailiffs Levied wrong car

She didn't say it had been clamped, she said it had been levied on. Not the same thing.

[Caspar]

Re: Rossendales Bailiffs Levied wrong car

She didn't say it had been clamped, she said it had been levied on. Not the same thing.

Oops! Sorry! But nonetheless if my car was levied for someone else's debt presumably I would know about it? I'd then be onto the bailiffs.

If I didn't know about it I'd rather hope the person who owed the debt told me so I could do something about it.

[Amy]

Re: Rossendales Bailiffs Levied wrong car

But nonetheless if my car was levied for someone else's debt presumably I would know about it? I'd then be onto the bailiffs.

You would not know. How could you?

If I didn't know about it I'd rather hope the person who owed the debt told me so I could do something about it.

The person whose debt it is might not know a vehicle has been levied either since most of the time the bailiffs do not leave any paperwork and even if the debtor did know it was not his car that had been levied, he might not know who the car does belong to, much less care.

In any case, a levy on a vehicle is of no consequence to anyone other than the debtor so there would be no point in you contacting the bailiffs about a debt that is not yours.

[Caspar]

Re: Rossendales Bailiffs Levied wrong car

You would not know. How could you?



The person whose debt it is might not know a vehicle has been levied either since most of the time the bailiffs do not leave any paperwork and even if the debtor did know it was not his car that had been levied, he might not know who the car does belong to, much less care.

In any case, a levy on a vehicle is of no consequence to anyone other than the debtor so there would be no point in you contacting the bailiffs about a debt that is not yours.

Thanks Amy - God I've a lot to learn! When they levy on a car then, what exactly happens? I'd assumed there would be some notice of some sort to someone.

[The Debt Star]

Re: Rossendales Bailiffs Levied wrong car

what happens if bailiffs levy a car and damage it? is it still insured?

[Amy]

Re: Rossendales Bailiffs Levied wrong car

Thanks Amy - God I've a lot to learn! When they levy on a car then, what exactly happens? I'd assumed there would be some notice of some sort to someone.

Yes, you are correct, there should be a notice left each and every time a visit or levy is carried out, basically anything that incurs a charge, informing the debtor about the charges. However, this does not always happen.

So if a debtor assumes the bailiff is telling the truth and assumes the fees to be correct, then they will have their fees paid and it's job done for them and for every time they asked to justify their fees, just think how many are paid up no questions asked.

Collecting unpaid council tax is a non-profit job, according to statue, so the bailiffs simply ignore this and add on what they like.

[Amy]

Re: Rossendales Bailiffs Levied wrong car

what happens if bailiffs levy a car and damage it? is it still insured?

I do not understand this question.

A levy is merely a piece of paper and they write down the registration of the car and push it through your letterbox telling you (if you are lucky) they have levied on it.

[The Debt Star]

Re: Rossendales Bailiffs Levied wrong car

well, say its your car Amy. Who's insured to drive it? if bailiffs drive it away or tow it away and total it, will the insurers pay out?

[Amy]

Re: Rossendales Bailiffs Levied wrong car

Maybe we should start a question and answer thread....

They do not drive it away when a levy is made, see my post above.