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  • Malicious Phone Calls ?

    I pose the following legal question. If someone were to receive a series of malicious phone calls and text message that obviously referred to threats of violence from someone they had never met or spoken to previously. And the individual calling said in the very first call. "If we ever meet, I will be the last face you ever see." Would those words legally constitute a death threat ? [ by implication ]
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  • #2
    well malicious communication at the least. But if you do not know them how would you find them to report it?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by islandgirl View Post
      well malicious communication at the least. But if you do not know them how would you find them to report it?
      The individual was foolish enough to reveal his name. But that's irrespective of my question, as I am trying to determine if his threat constitutes an implied death threat or not.

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      • #4
        https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk...reats-to-kill/

        https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk...-revised-2017/

        Read the sentencing guidelines. I would say it is the latter not the former but you could go and ask a specialist (most solicitors do a free half hour consultation)

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        • #5
          Originally posted by islandgirl View Post
          https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk...reats-to-kill/

          https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk...-revised-2017/

          Read the sentencing guidelines. I would say it is the latter not the former but you could go and ask a specialist (most solicitors do a free half hour consultation)
          Thank you ! I'm asking the question because Sussex police have informed me that the words stated in my question do not represent a death threat. I maintain that it is a a death threat by implication of the logical conclusion that can be determined by the threat: . "If we ever meet, I will be the last face you ever see." Would you agree or not ?

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          • #6
            Maybe hard to prove in a court i would think Block the number Police reluctant to act on threats sad to say

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            • #7
              Originally posted by wales01man View Post
              Maybe hard to prove in a court i would think Block the number Police reluctant to act on threats sad to say
              It would not be hard to prove in court as there's a voice mail and text messages. It's not possible to block the caller on my old phone. And the threats have extremely serious implications as they are the result of the police in Sussex failing to act on evidence that was supplied a decade ago in relation to a serious crime. I would therefore not be receiving the threats if the accused were innocent of the crimes I have alleged, so it places Sussex police in a very difficult position. The question is was it a death threat ?

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              • #8
                Why does it matter to you whether it is or not (in legal terms I mean)? If it has been reported to the Police it is in their hands

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by islandgirl View Post
                  Why does it matter to you whether it is or not (in legal terms I mean)? If it has been reported to the Police it is in their hands
                  As I have stated above, the threats have extremely serious implications as they are the result of the police in Sussex failing to act on evidence that was supplied a decade ago in relation to a serious crime. I would therefore obviously not be receiving the threats if the accused were innocent of the crimes I have alleged and also later proved by documented evidence, so it places Sussex police in a very difficult position. So the question remains was it a death threat ? as I'm about to sue Sussex police.

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                  • #10
                    Presumably the Police investigated at the time and did not proceed. Was the issue raised again with the Police when the documentary evidence came to light? I wish you well.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by islandgirl View Post
                      Presumably the Police investigated at the time and did not proceed. Was the issue raised again with the Police when the documentary evidence came to light? I wish you well.
                      If you believe that the police can be relied on to meaningfully investigate all crimes that have been reported, you are in for a rude awakening in life. This link will give you an indication of the appalling incompetence of Sussex police, and the evidence which they have ignored whilst allowing criminals to escape justice for over a decade. https://twitter.com/kertbache/with_replies

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                      • #12
                        As a magistrate dealing frequently with the Police I will most certainly not be in for a rude awakening!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by islandgirl View Post
                          As a magistrate dealing frequently with the Police I will most certainly not be in for a rude awakening!
                          In that case, I can also tell you that the system of justice is broken in many respects. If you scroll down the Twitter link I sent, you will find that Justice J Cutts refused a Judicial Review in spite of seen documents signed with false names, and also allowed the criminals to escape justice. That of course was after several other judges had made errors in both the Holborn Probate Court, and the Chancery Division of the High Court. The CPS and so called Full Code Test is also unfit for purpose, as three Prosecutors each made individual errors when evaluating the evidence before discontinuing my Private Prosecution, and again allowed the criminals to escape justice.

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                          • #14
                            I have not yet had time to look at the Twitter but I will.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by islandgirl View Post
                              I have not yet had time to look at the Twitter but I will.
                              Thank you. This all concerns a fraud which took advantage of the lacuna in the law which can be facilitated by Section 18 of the 1837 Wills Act after a covert marriage. [ Predatory Marriage Fraud ] The Law Commission has known about this lacuna since 1980 but they have failed to address the problem.

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