Can UK citizens to sue the Home Office

[Crazy council]

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My more cynical husband also has a theory about the £300million private investment package by Scampton Holdings Ltd. To preserve the heritage buildings on site as they wish to do will cost a small fortune, similarly for the upgrading of services on/to the site. (There are also issues with contamination eg asbestos, aviation fuel, fire retardants, possible ordinance.)
It would be fortunate indeed if the government were to come along and spend tax payers money doing the bulk of the expensive works (rumours suggest budget of £2billion) allowing the private investors to step in a little later and reap the rewards for a fraction of the original cost?

This is exactly how regeneration frauds operate at the top level , from the top down, every stage takes there 20% profits until it gets to the final workers,

I started the path your on in 2005, and if you dont fight, who will ? Thats our ancestry, we should be so proud of our history

My dad had a saying ( old mariner ) . He would say, Dont just notice its getting dark when the whales closing its mouth.

The point of the saying it notice things early and act on them, becuase by the time most people notice, worse things are happening and theirs no way out.

[Crazy council]

Here is scampton Holdings https://find-and-update.company-info...filing-history

the connected people seem interesting ,

Do you have details of any other company names involved Rattus . searching ward councillors family names on the gov business listing czn be very telling. Also, does your council sub contract out the planning dept ( like most do ) , if so , what the name of the company that does it for them

[Rattus]

Here is scampton Holdings https://find-and-update.company-info...filing-history

the connected people seem interesting ,

Do you have details of any other company names involved Rattus . searching ward councillors family names on the gov business listing czn be very telling. Also, does your council sub contract out the planning dept ( like most do ) , if so , what the name of the company that does it for them

I’m afraid it’s clear as mud
https://www.scampton.org/project-page
I mailed them ages ago asking if the £300million actually exists or if it is more of an aspiration as I could find no details actual investors. The company itself has no assets of its own.

I couldn’t find out if planning is contracted out?
the extraordinary planning meeting being held tonight regarding the removal of the dog, “Voldemort” is being run by several councillors.

[Crazy council]

its these https://www.universal-defence.com/bl...ainable-future

So, people in the defence supply industry.

https://www.west-lindsey.gov.uk/coun...e-raf-scampton

I will have a deeper look at the weekend. am in North east lincs so this is close to me

[Crazy council]

i hope the OP Rattus keeps us updated on this, these quite a lot going on.

[Rattus]

i hope the OP Rattus keeps us updated on this, these quite a lot going on.

Hello,
just to update, we had a permission hearing over two days this week and the result was revealed on Friday giving WLDC the right to a judicial review. We await a date for this. RAF Wethersfield and the private individual were also successful in their bids.
Anyone able to explain what kind of things a Judicial review will be able to look at? Is it purely looking at legal matters or does it take into account the viability of the plan, local infrastructure difficulties etc.?
I know one of the grounds accepted this week was the use of Class Q emergency planning, the judge also mentioned the £300million private investment plan.
many thanks in advance for any information!

[PallasAthena]

"...judicial reviews are a challenge to the way in which a decision has been made, rather than the rights and wrongs of the conclusion reached.

It is not really concerned with the conclusions of that process and whether those were ‘right’, as long as the right procedures have been followed. The court will not substitute what it thinks is the ‘correct’ decision."

Judicial review - Courts and Tribunals Judiciary

[Rattus]

"...judicial reviews are a challenge to the way in which a decision has been made, rather than the rights and wrongs of the conclusion reached.

It is not really concerned with the conclusions of that process and whether those were ‘right’, as long as the right procedures have been followed. The court will not substitute what it thinks is the ‘correct’ decision."

Judicial review - Courts and Tribunals Judiciary

Thank you. It would seem our hopes for the JR might be misplaced then. When we heard mention of the £300million investment package, we hoped that someone might be applying common sense.
RAF Scampton does form a part of the regional authorities Local Plan but this wasn’t ratified until April after the announcement of the asylum centre in March.

[Crazy council]

hi Rattus there is a lot going on away from RAF Scampton that will affect it. JRs can still be good for you, it all depends on the pressure put on the people reviewing it.

In my opinion, the problem is the investors and money lenders for these projects, in the background they bride , coearse and manipulate everything so results sway in there favour.

Protesting, making a noise and standing your ground works, they ( the investors and money men ) dont ;like the attention because they understand that sooner or later people start looking at the transactions involved, the hidden ones. Everyone initial looks for supply chain frauds or bungs around land and buildings transfers, and they do exist, but the real money is in the initial lending.

So for the refurb, purchase of land and associated upgrades are going to cost teh tax payers a few hundred million. The government dont pay that at the start or in stages to the firms doing it. They pay it to who its borrowed off.

The firms use money lenders for bridging loans, at massive rip off rates, the solicitors and accountants involved ( usually a long chain ) add fees, and its them that bribe-coearse the ward councillors and public employees involved.

The supply chain frauds is used as a way of spreading the transactions across a number of larger business so they can subcontract down and hide the frauds within the subcontracts. .

[Rattus]

i hope the OP Rattus keeps us updated on this, these quite a lot going on.

To update, we heard yesterday that the Home Office haven’t begun to understand the logistical difficulties relating to the site. They have not yet even begun to assess the 14 buildings they intend to use and cannot find suitably qualified persons to assess the viability of the gas and electricity supplies to the site!!
As a result they are now saying that rather than placing migrants here from mid August, this has now been put back until October!
These people aren’t very bright are they, surely you address viability before announcing your plans? Will they end up backing down or will sheer bloody mindedness and the desire to save face prevail?
All the while they run around like the headless morons they are, the heritage buildings will continue to deteriorate! How long before they become unsalvageable?

[Rattus]

To update, we heard yesterday that the Home Office haven’t begun to understand the logistical difficulties relating to the site. They have not yet even begun to assess the 14 buildings they intend to use and cannot find suitably qualified persons to assess the viability of the gas and electricity supplies to the site!!
As a result they are now saying that rather than placing migrants here from mid August, this has now been put back until October!
These people aren’t very bright are they, surely you address viability before announcing your plans? Will they end up backing down or will sheer bloody mindedness and the desire to save face prevail?
All the while they run around like the headless morons they are, the heritage buildings will continue to deteriorate! How long before they become unsalvageable?

Update
I’m sure most have seen the latest news form Scampton.
porta cabins have been arriving on site for over a week. Buildings are not up to fire safety standard so need gutting at enormous expense to the tax payer. Looks like they want first migrants in before end of September. Judicial review is scheduled for October 31st.
Frankly I can’t see them stopping now and if they lose the JR, I’m certain that won’t stop it! Ultimately they are the law! Can anyone here comment on this? What actual penalties could they realistically face? And aren’t they anyway changing the law on emergency planning in the levelling up bill? (that seems to be the main grounds for having JR)
Home office is finally offering to meet with residents, 4 meetings for 100 all on same day 31st August (one per household and we’ve 430 odd houses, not taking into account all of the surrounding villages) They laughingly call this a consultation even though they are clearly making the base ready in a huge hurry!
Residents tired and despondent

[Crazy council]

Just an update of sorts on the situation at scampton. The guy who runs the account activepatriot was arrested yesterday and has to stay away from there for a few weeks. I know people like AP can come across a bit shape at times, but i have worked with people like him in the past, hes passionate and knows how to ruffle the feathers. Him and the accounts little boats have been exposing a lot that would have been hidden to the public. The RAF scampton thing just looks like theft in slow motion.

[Rattus]

There is now a permanent protest camp at the entrance to the base! The police are picking protesters off one by one, the latest charges were for swearing in public!! They are then given bail conditions preventing them from coming within X of the base. ( this varies from 200 meters up to 3 miles for them) The police believe whatever security tell them and act upon their word, I know for a fact that they make stuff up! They are cynically using the law to clear the camp! Seems we not longer have the right to protest under article 10.
meanwhile the local council have served the site with a Stop Work Order which the home office blithely ignore and the police fail to act saying it’s a civil matter, even though the order clearly states that to ignore the order can result in criminal charges?

[Crazy council]

Typical of the police at the moment.

The irony is most of them dont understand the term fascism, what it really means ( ignore Wikipedia ), but at the moment, a large number of senior police and public servants and connected villinery ( MPs ) have there investments in schemes that lend money on high interest rates to these organisations that are involve in this.

I know some local suppliers are supporting them, i hope they keep it up

[Crazy council]

Victory, i hope the OP sees this.

Well done to all those that resisted, if i get chance i will pop to the site and congratulate the campers.

Wins are hard and take tough people with steel nerves. Old-school type British stubbornness.

( though i suspect the "financiers " involved will still try use the site for something )

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