The Cameron Campaign Pamphlet.

[Noah]

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When people talk about immigrants, who exactly are we talking about?

The Poles - don't they integrate and prop up our service industries and health service doing jobs that others don't want to do?

Th Romanians who haven't flocked to our shores in anything like the numbers predicted

The Muslims who are fleeing war in Syria and Iraq or who live in a country where they are not thought of as true Muslims because they are Shia, where some Sunni's would be quite happy to kill them?

People from the many states in Africa?

I wish people would say what they mean when they refer to immigration , after all, leaving the EU would only have an impact on EU migration which would cripple our health service and other low paid service industries.

When we stay in a hotel or visit a nice restaurant, who do you think has cleaned the room or served us , work long hours on minimum wage helping the owners to reap greater profits

[Openlaw15]

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Debate by all means but let's not any comments personally. Whether a legalbeagle is a Jew, Muslim, Buddhist, or Christian is irrelevant. Let's take religion out of the debate as it just fuels the proverbial fire.

[EXC]

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... and what will happen to employment protection law derived from EU directives?
Gradually eroded so we're back to Dickensian standards?

That's my worry too. EU directives have been responsible for a lot of good consumer legislation that probably wouldn't have been replicated had we not been in.

[Noah]

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That's my worry too. EU directives have been responsible for a lot of good consumer legislation that probably wouldn't have been replicated had we not been in.

I had been going to add that, the various EU directives with which consumers can assert their rights will I am certain be eroded by various centre right governments over time. I am not just Tory bashing here although that is easy but New labour who were just as bad in many ways as the previous governments.

[Amethyst]

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I have removed a number of comments from this thread. Personal comments are not acceptable. Neither are Racist comments. Talking about immigration is fine, and unavoidable in a thread about #Brexit, but keep the 'Fox News' type garbage out of it.

[Crazy council]

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I think being in Europe give us at least some protection from the thieves and spivs we vote in. ( and the fit birds give our woman a standard to aim at )

Personally, have been a lifelong labour supporter but i dont find any of the party's credible at the moment, at least none of them have a leader i would want running the business/country, Say what you want about tony Blair, he was credible and respected. Shame we can not have Nicola Sturgeon, she seems capable

How do you think the rest of the world leaders look at Cameron. ??? Oink Oink .....

So am in, and am trying to persuade anyone i know thats considering voting out, not to

[Openlaw15]

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That's my worry too. EU directives have been responsible for a lot of good consumer legislation that probably wouldn't have been replicated had we not been in.

EU Directives which usually result in Regulations in the domestic countries (inc. UK) come from EU Treaty origins where EU case law is more or less cast in stone in those domestic. In my view, if Parliament were to repeal its primary Acts it would still not affect common law (case law) in the UK as it is likely a constitutional benefit, an evolvement via a modern principle for a modern democratic country. It's also my view that any affective EU law which is currently integrated into the UK's domestic legal system notwithstanding the other affected EU member countries, will continue to do so as long as its aim or benefit has been an advancement of a constitutional principle. Employment and or consumer law in the modern world is no exception. It's like in the early 19th Century the 'Work House' was a system for the poor; but fast forward today there would never be a move back in that direction despite the Tory's who are often heard recounting the stories and how well off the poor are today, ie in the Tory words 'the benefit scroungers', or as Ian Hislop's patronisingly would say, 'the 'undeserving poor' or the 'deserving poor.'

[NWHC]

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Openlaw
If I am understanding you, you are saying that with employment law, once laid down as statute it is unlikely to be changed in a regressive way?

I remember the messing around with time for employment protection
It was 2 years, got changed to 1 and then was changed back

Surely Parliament would be able to change any law they are able to get through if we are no longer bound by EU law. For example they could repeal the Human Rights Act and maybe it wouldn't be in this term but if we got say Iain Duncan Smith as PM for a 3rd term anything is possible. God help us we could even get Theresa May who makes Attila the Hun look left wing

[NWHC]

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I read in the Times today that immigration is going to be the deciding factor on the vote but from reading comments here and elsewhere I am wondering what expectations people have of immigration , what are they expecting will stop?

[Fred]

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If we do not contribute & be part of the solution then, we will become a nation like the Isle of Man is to the UK.

Immigration is not going to be a threat if we all sing from the same hymn sheet & help our fellow human beings, either way we will have to help them no matter what.

[LowEbb]

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Received mine yesterday,
Friend also received his yesterday, but he is sending his back return to sender LOL

Yep got ours to and sent it back to sender with a few other choice words. It's scandalous spending nine million of tax payers money on it.

[enaid]

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I got 2 lol will be returning to sender

[EXC]

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I got 2 lol

Probably because they realise that they need to work a bit harder on you lol.

[Amethyst]

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Ref EU Migration - https://fullfact.org/europe/eu-migration/

[enaid]

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Yep got ours to and sent it back to sender with a few other choice words. It's scandalous spending nine million of tax payers money on it.

The content would have fitted on a single sheet of paper, the fancy folk tried to enhance it with pictures. Pictures usually work for me, but not this time, bloody pointless and must have hiked the cost up no end.