Scottish Independence

[Ruby]

I hope I don't get into trouble with admin for opening this thread, however I would like to open a general chat with peoples concerns about the upcoming referendum.

I live in Scotland and I am not ashamed to say I am confused! There are far too many questions in my head. As I am on this site I will focus on my financial concerns and lets face it, that is very important to us all.

There has been a lot of debate about whether Scotland would be able to keep the pound however what about things like accounts, eg. mortgages, credit cards, etc. If the company in question is based in England (or vice versa) and you live in Scotland would that mean that we would be dealing with companies technically from a different country - what impact would that have?

From being a member on this site for a few years now I understand how different the legal system can be in England to Scotland. Scotland has its own say on many things, do we really need to be independent? I see all the time in the news about the awful things that are happening in this world and people being killed meaninglessly. I personally feel we should be proud to be neighbours and live in peace and harmony together. Anything less than that is taking a backward step in history.

[enaid]

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I agree with you entirely about wanting to discuss the situation and to try and get things in perspective re finances etc.
I have only listened to snippets on the subject as tbh my oh says anyone living north of Watford Gap should go with Scotland lol.
All joking aside it is or could have massive implications on the people who matter, what happens with the NHS is another thing never mentioned.
It brings to mind Ireland and the troubles North and South, supposedly religious based, that again imho a smoke screen for politics and financial gains alongside who calls the shots.
I don't know what info you have had through your door re the referendum but if it does not state fully what it means for you and yours I would not vote to go alone.

[shell]

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Me, I'm all for independence. Why? Well for a start we will then be able to vote for the government we want. At the moment we have 1 Tory MP in Scotland, we have never voted for a Tory government and yet we keep on getting one. There is also a serious risk of UKIP getting elected in the next elections, I don't want to be ruled by them. As for the NHS, well the Tories have started privatising the NHS, Scotland as an independent country aims to keep the NHS under government control. I just think this country has so much potential that is being misused by Westminster, we can make a wonderful future for our kids. If countries like the Isle of Man and Guernsey can be successful, so can we.

As for the pound, well Isle of Man and Guernsey both use the pound so I can't see what the problem is. Actually the only problem in my eyes is the no campaigners scaremongering.

[enaid]

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I will also add that no one as I have seen or heard ever mentioned the laws and legalities and how that will affect folks. Will it be that we have extradition laws etc and what about the very important statute laws that are different.
Just seems to me like a good idea that has not been thought through from beginning to end as with all other ideas that have been thrown at us in the last few years
All I have said is my own opinion only lol I don't want a battering lol

[Kati]

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...did-alone.html

I found this interesting reading :tinysmile_grin_t:

[shell]

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I will also add that no one as I have seen or heard ever mentioned the laws and legalities and how that will affect folks. Will it be that we have extradition laws etc and what about the very important statute laws that are different.
Just seems to me like a good idea that has not been thought through from beginning to end as with all other ideas that have been thrown at us in the last few years
All I have said is my own opinion only lol I don't want a battering lol

Di, we already function with laws that are different, so why should anything change? As for extradition, we already do that and so does England. Again why should that change?

I don't want to fight with anyone over this either, I just want to state what I have looked into about this. I'm quite passionate about independence as I can see nothing but advantages for Scotland.

[Kati]

Re: Scottish Independence

I will also add that no one as I have seen or heard ever mentioned the laws and legalities and how that will affect folks. Will it be that we have extradition laws etc and what about the very important statute laws that are different.
Just seems to me like a good idea that has not been thought through from beginning to end as with all other ideas that have been thrown at us in the last few years
All I have said is my own opinion only lol I don't want a battering lol

will we have 'border control' like America/Canada?? Different currencies like Germany/Austria?? A different police force with neither being able to cross the border??

[shell]

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...did-alone.html

I found this interesting reading :tinysmile_grin_t:

Kati, that was written in January 2012, it was also a supposed prediction by a historian. Most of what he has said has been debunked, such as acceptance by the EU. Yes we want to get rid of Trident. the rest is basically sh*te. Typical Daily Mail scaremongering before they have any of the actual details.

[enaid]

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I wont fall out with anyone over this, I just sincerely hope that the decision whatever it may be is the right one for all concerned.
I also hope that if the split is to be then it be a firm and proper one and not something that has issues going on and on back and forth for eternity.

[shell]

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will we have 'border control' like America/Canada?? Different currencies like Germany/Austria?? A different police force with neither being able to cross the border??

We already have a different police force that co-operates with the rest of the UK police. Currencies, no reason why we can't use the pound, just like Guernsey and Isle of Man. As for border controls, we plan to become EU members so there is no reason for other UK citizens to need a passport to enter.

[Kati]

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Kati, that was written in January 2012, it was also a supposed prediction by a historian. Most of what he has said has been debunked, such as acceptance by the EU. Yes we want to get rid of Trident. the rest is basically sh*te. Typical Daily Mail scaremongering before they have any of the actual details.

I wasn't taking it seriously shell :tinysmile_twink_t2: it does go to show how things can be taken out of all perspective tho' :tinysmile_grin_t:. I would be interested to know the pros and cons of Scottish Independence ... what is it going to change for the UK (apart from the obvious)??

[Ruby]

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I don't want to fight with anyone over this either, I just want to state what I have looked into about this. I'm quite passionate about independence as I can see nothing but advantages for Scotland.

It great to get things off our chest and lets not feel we are offending anyone. Its good to 'talk'.

My motto in life is 'if it ain't broke don't fix it'. There are so many questions and not enough answers. Lets face it, politicians will say they will pave your road with solid gold just to get elected and so far Alec Salmon has not filled me with confidence. There are other small countries in the world who have flourished on their own, but will we be one of them? What if things get worst and taxes raised to compensate? Yes we have oil and tourism on our side but that is not enough.

[Ruby]

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I would be interested to know the pros and cons of Scottish Independence ... what is it going to change for the UK (apart from the obvious)??

What's obvious?

[shell]

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Just remember, you are not voting for Alex Salmond, you are voting for the future of your country. Yes Salmond may be in power to start, but elections will be held next year and you will have a chance to vote for who you want.

As for "if it ain't broke don't fix it", well I believe it is broke. At the moment laws are made in the South of England to benefit people in the South of England. We have people having to rely on foodbanks, disabled and ill people being denied the help they need and elderly and disabled people being punished by the bedroom tax. These are just a few of the things that as an independent country we can and will fix.

[Kati]

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What's obvious?

that you won't be run by Westminster - that you will have your own prime minister (or equivalent) - that your tax system will be different - your NHS will not be the same (our Government will not be able to privatise it if it doesn't belong to the UK) ...