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OFT v Banks Judgment 25th November 2009 - 9.45am- Supreme Court - Test case

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  • Re: OFT v Banks Judgment 25th November 2009 - 9.45am- Supreme Court - Test case

    Morning all,

    Was it this bit.....

    'We will not charge you for using our Alerts Service. However, your network operator may charge you for receiving a text alert from us or for sending a mobile text
    message to us.'


    Best wishes

    Dougal

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    • Re: OFT v Banks Judgment 25th November 2009 - 9.45am- Supreme Court - Test case

      Come on, Dougal, do you need a clue?

      Here it is: How old do you have to be to have an overdraft, authorised or otherwise?
      "Family means that no one gets forgotten or left behind"
      (quote from David Ogden Stiers)

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      • Re: OFT v Banks Judgment 25th November 2009 - 9.45am- Supreme Court - Test case

        Evening all,

        Was it this bit.....3rd attempt.....

        'To receive text or email Alerts you need to hold an eligible account and be at least 11 years old.'

        I believe that to have an overdraft authorised or otherwise you need to be sixteen, but I may be wrong....again!!!

        Best wishes

        Dougal

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        • Re: OFT v Banks Judgment 25th November 2009 - 9.45am- Supreme Court - Test case

          bang on Douglas and it's 18 for overdrafts and the fact remains that they would have to refund charges made to anyone under 18 years of age. Furthermore, most under 18 years accounts have a clause stating that no standing orders or direct debits are permitted for under 18's.
          "Family means that no one gets forgotten or left behind"
          (quote from David Ogden Stiers)

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          • Re: OFT v Banks Judgment 25th November 2009 - 9.45am- Supreme Court - Test case

            The very best of luck with your bank charges hearing tomorrow - you know who you are.

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            • Re: OFT v Banks Judgment 25th November 2009 - 9.45am- Supreme Court - Test case

              Originally posted by EXC View Post
              The very best of luck with your bank charges hearing tomorrow - you know who you are.

              Luck is always what someone makes it.......

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              • Re: OFT v Banks Judgment 25th November 2009 - 9.45am- Supreme Court - Test case

                Evening all,

                Well a certain young (ish) Barrister was brilliant!

                There are some very good new Consumer programmes coming on BBC 1 this week.........in the mornings at 11 a.m......I think I'll watch the one on Wednesday!.

                Best wishes all, and thanks for your support.....

                I would not have got this far without you.

                Kind regards

                Dougal

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                • Re: OFT v Banks Judgment 25th November 2009 - 9.45am- Supreme Court - Test case

                  The Consumer programme was brilliant and so were you and Tom, any chance as to letting us know how the Hearing went?

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                  • Re: OFT v Banks Judgment 25th November 2009 - 9.45am- Supreme Court - Test case

                    Yay! Great feature Howard, well done. :beagle:

                    Your case most elegantly demonstrates just how very unfair these charges really are.
                    "Although scalar fields are Lorentz scalars, they may transform nontrivially under other symmetries, such as flavour or isospin. For example, the pion is invariant under the restricted Lorentz group, but is an isospin triplet (meaning it transforms like a three component vector under the SU(2) isospin symmetry). Furthermore, it picks up a negative phase under parity inversion, so it transforms nontrivially under the full Lorentz group; such particles are called pseudoscalar rather than scalar. Most mesons are pseudoscalar particles." (finally explained to a captivated Celestine by Professor Brian Cox on Wednesday 27th June 2012 )

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                    • Re: OFT v Banks Judgment 25th November 2009 - 9.45am- Supreme Court - Test case

                      Originally posted by enaid View Post
                      The Consumer programme was brilliant and so were you and Tom
                      Have you got a link me dear?

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                      • Re: OFT v Banks Judgment 25th November 2009 - 9.45am- Supreme Court - Test case

                        Originally posted by EXC View Post
                        Have you got a link me dear?
                        I am sorry no, I think it has gone off I PLayer now.

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                        • Re: OFT v Banks Judgment 25th November 2009 - 9.45am- Supreme Court - Test case

                          Afternoon all,


                          Thanks for the good wishes...it has cost me a fortune in Bonio's!!!

                          Still he is a good dog....Dougal that is.....not Counsel.

                          As for the hearing we are still awaiting the Judge's decision, and please rest assured as soon as it is to hand (he reserved Judgement) it will be on here.

                          Once again my grateful thanks on behalf of myself and everyone involved in the programme. Just to put the record straight...despite what HSBC said when asked about my claim: IT HAS NEVER BEEN TO THE OMBUDSMAN !!

                          Sincerely my very best wishes,

                          Dougal
                          (the hairy one with four legs!!)

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                          • Re: OFT v Banks Judgment 25th November 2009 - 9.45am- Supreme Court - Test case

                            Originally posted by Dougal16T View Post
                            As for the hearing we are still awaiting the Judge's decision, and please rest assured as soon as it is to hand (he reserved Judgement) it will be on here.
                            Yes please do it'll be a really interesting judgment on several levels.

                            Tom's grasp of the requirement of good faith argument and his ability to apply it to bank charges is truly impressive.

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                            • Re: OFT v Banks Judgment 25th November 2009 - 9.45am- Supreme Court - Test case

                              Consider this statement from Marc 'The Master' Gander:

                              ''Firstly, most banks in Europe and in Australasia do not rely on this level of charges for their revenue. Theur model is based on customers paying for their accounts and their transactions''

                              http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk...=1#post3857069

                              Then consider this news item from Couriermail Business, Australia:

                              ''The High Court will hear a class action by customers of the ANZ Bank alleging it charged excessive fees for overdrafts, overdrawn accounts, dishonour fees and over-the-limit credit card accounts.......These class actions against unfair bank charges are the largest in Australia's history - more than $220 million for fees charged against around 170,000 customers from eight banks and it continues to grow.''

                              http://www.couriermail.com.au/busine...-1226353082171

                              Now, using your skill and judgment, do you think Gander is right?

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                              • Re: OFT v Banks Judgment 25th November 2009 - 9.45am- Supreme Court - Test case

                                I would add that there has been a similar campaign on bank charges in Australia as there has been in the UK. You will note that their defence is the same as the one here:

                                "Family means that no one gets forgotten or left behind"
                                (quote from David Ogden Stiers)

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