Appeals - Days 1, 2, 3 and 4... so far

[EXC]

Re: Appeals - Days 1, 2, 3 and 4... so far

In the judgment for the initial test case hearing, 4 banks (Abbey, Barclays, Clydesdale & HBOS) were found to have certain terms & conditions that were not in 'plain intelligible language' as UTCCR holds they should be.

See the very last paragraph (no 450) http://www.judiciary.gov.uk/docs/jud...ent_240408.pdf

At the handing down of that judgment the banks sought permission to appeal but Justice Smith declined to give it. In the appeal hearing just finished the 4 banks re-applied for permission to appeal the PIL judgment and the judges granted it. This will mean that another appeal hearing will be scheduled to hear it.

[Budgie]

Re: Appeals - Days 1, 2, 3 and 4... so far

In the judgment for the initial test case hearing, 4 banks (Abbey, Barclays, Clydesdale & HBOS) were found to have certain terms & conditions that were not in 'plain intelligible language' as UTCCR holds they should be.

See the very last paragraph (no 450) http://www.judiciary.gov.uk/docs/jud...ent_240408.pdf

At the handing down of that judgment the banks sought permission to appeal but Justice Smith declined to give it. In the appeal hearing just finished the 4 banks re-applied for permission to appeal the PIL judgment and the judges granted it. This will mean that another appeal hearing will be scheduled to hear it.

Well let's hope that that new appeal is in PIL and not in analogy speak.

Let's also hope that the bloody RCJ get their act together and correct versions of their cause lists up on the notice board and online a little more expediently.

[kev2b3]

Re: Appeals - Days 1, 2, 3 and 4... so far

I wonder when all this will end. The banks lose this they appeal, off to the House of Lords they go and lose that off to the European court and on and on. This can't be cheap for the banks, the barristers and their staff must be a costing the banks a small fortune. I hope its not coming from us tax payers. I almost feel sorry for the OFT barrister. One man again'st the banks tribe can't be easy.
Will the judgement from the 3 judges be a longtime coming and if the judges agree with the OFT would they have the power to tell the FSA to end the wavier which is currently stopping millions of people claim back their money.
I would also like to point one thing out to the people who are running this site, i have through the past few years been going through all the sites dealing with bank charges and i have too be honest, the Legal Beagles beats them all handsdown.

[natweststaffmember]

Re: Appeals - Days 1, 2, 3 and 4... so far

I wonder when all this will end. The banks lose this they appeal, off to the House of Lords they go and lose that off to the European court and on and on. This can't be cheap for the banks, the barristers and their staff must be a costing the banks a small fortune. I hope its not coming from us tax payers. I almost feel sorry for the OFT barrister. One man again'st the banks tribe can't be easy.
Will the judgement from the 3 judges be a longtime coming and if the judges agree with the OFT would they have the power to tell the FSA to end the wavier which is currently stopping millions of people claim back their money.
I would also like to point one thing out to the people who are running this site, i have through the past few years been going through all the sites dealing with bank charges and i have too be honest, the Legal Beagles beats them all handsdown.

From reading the details here, the appeal that has taken place should be known by next month but in all likelyhood, the bank will fight until their is no fight left. That could be as late as 2009/2010 or longer

[EXC]

Re: Appeals - Days 1, 2, 3 and 4... so far

All being well I should get the appeal transcripts later today.

[Amethyst]

Re: Appeals - Days 1, 2, 3 and 4... so far

Ohhh excellent - am looking forward to the analogy bits

[Budgie]

Re: Appeals - Days 1, 2, 3 and 4... so far

Did you get the transcripts Exc ??

[EXC]

Re: Appeals - Days 1, 2, 3 and 4... so far

I'm chasing them up. Merril Legal Solutions are not the most efficient supplier of court transcripts but alas they have the exclusive.

On each occasion I've dealt with them their service has fallen into one of three categories:

1) Useless
2) Absolutely Useless
3) Absolutely amazingly useless.

[EXC]

Re: Appeals - Days 1, 2, 3 and 4... so far

The appeal transcripts should be posted shortly in this forum

http://legalbeagles.info/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=179

Thanks PK!

[natweststaffmember]

Re: Appeals - Days 1, 2, 3 and 4... so far

Can someone explain the Budgie sealed scripts. I am a bit of a thickie here, but what exactly are they?

[righty]

Re: Appeals - Days 1, 2, 3 and 4... so far

I'm chasing them up. Merril Legal Solutions are not the most efficient supplier of court transcripts but alas they have the exclusive.

On each occasion I've dealt with them their service has fallen into one of three categories:

1) Useless
2) Absolutely Useless
3) Absolutely amazingly useless.

This is what comes of having no competition:tinysmile_cry_t:

[Paule]

Re: Appeals - Days 1, 2, 3 and 4... so far

The Link to the Transcripts

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