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    Man 'evicted over legal bill' after solicitor complaint

    Rip off Britain on Wednesday 8th October will feature this story
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...ester-26725929
    Man 'evicted over legal
    bill' after solicitor complaint

    24 March 2014 Last updated at
    22:39 GMT


    A pensioner from Greater Manchester claims he is being evicted after
    complaining about the solicitor who handled his father's will.


    Paul Cowdrey from Rochdale said his home, part of his late father's
    inheritance, is being sold to pay a £130,000 legal debt owed to a solicitor.


    He said he complained to the Law Society about the amount of hours he was
    being billed for by solicitor Michael Sandler.

    Mr Cowdrey said he was then billed by him for investigating the
    complaint.

    Two High Court judges have ruled Mr Sandler was right but the Solicitors
    Regulatory Authority described his behaviour as "morally reprehensible".
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    Re: Man 'evicted over legal bill' after solicitor complaint

    Also http://www.lawgazette.co.uk/law/mp-i...038787.article
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      Re: Man 'evicted over legal bill' after solicitor complaint

      Costs schedule http://www.paulcowdrey.webspace.virg...pdf/latest.pdf
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        Re: Man 'evicted over legal bill' after solicitor complaint

        Just read it all what a bloody disgrace, another 'loophole'.

        Why are these in no way accountable ? Legal Complaints Service that he would not be liable for costs in a complaint about alleged misconduct.

        and what chuffin use are these ?         The SRA has told the MP and Cowdrey that it is powerless to stop Keoghs enforcing the costs order, in spite of any advice he may previously have received.

        Thinking back this could have been me in this situation, very easily.
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          Judgment http://t.co/oHShubvfqw
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            Re: Man 'evicted over legal bill' after solicitor complaint

            Originally posted by enaid View Post
            Just read it all what a bloody disgrace, another 'loophole'.

            Why are these in no way accountable ? Legal Complaints Service that he would not be liable for costs in a complaint about alleged misconduct.

            and what chuffin use are these ?             The SRA has told the MP and Cowdrey that it is powerless to stop Keoghs enforcing the costs order, in spite of any advice he may previously have received.

            Thinking back this could have been me in this situation, very easily.
            Me too, Enaid!

            The moral for us all is: Do not appoint a solicitor as executor of your will!

            Executors, trustees, beneficiaries are all then free to engage a professional as and when needed and not a hostage to these exorbitant charges for which there seems to be no redress even through the alleged regulatory bodies.

            The key issue being that the beneficiary would then , unarguably, be the "client" rather than a third party.

            This gives a better chance of any legacy going to your heirs and not being soaked up by the legal profession.

            That poor man!
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              Re: Man 'evicted over legal bill' after solicitor complaint

              So in a nutshell Solicitor employed his own firm to deal with beneficiaries complaints, as the beneficiary (it was decided) was not a client of the firm but a third party and lost, then costs go to him?
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                Re: Man 'evicted over legal bill' after solicitor complaint

                Originally posted by enaid View Post
                So in a nutshell Solicitor employed his own firm to deal with beneficiaries complaints, as the beneficiary (it was decided) was not a client of the firm but a third party and lost, then costs go to him?
                Quite - and apparently all within the letter of the law. Iniquitous. :colbert:

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                  Re: Man 'evicted over legal bill' after solicitor complaint

                  Originally posted by MissFM View Post
                  Me too, Enaid!

                  The moral for us all is: Do not appoint a solicitor as executor of your will!

                  Executors, trustees, beneficiaries are all then free to engage a professional as and when needed and not a hostage to these exorbitant charges for which there seems to be no redress even through the alleged regulatory bodies.

                  The key issue being that the beneficiary would then , unarguably, be the "client" rather than a third party.

                  This gives a better chance of any legacy going to your heirs and not being soaked up by the legal profession.

                  That poor man!

                  Yep exactly I had a bit of a do getting my dads will and deeds off his solicitor even with a LPA, finished up dad doing a new will naming me and my sis as executors instead of the Solicitor.
                  Thing is people of my dads era and possibly mine think they must have a solicitor in these matters and as you state, far easier to get one if you need one rather than have one you don't need.
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                    Re: Man 'evicted over legal bill' after solicitor complaint

                    What is particularly disturbing about this is the position of the SRA. Surely if they can see that the behaviour of the solicitor is "morally reprehensible" than it's within their remit to discipline him for bringing the profession into disrepute?

                    They also (as with the FSA/FCA fiasco) seem to be saying that they can't do anything about complaints raised to the LCS as they are a "new" regulatory body.

                    The letter (p14-15), indeed everything on this PDF (sorry can't cut & paste to quote) from Anthony Townsend (CE of SRA) to Simon Danczuk MP is truly shocking:
                    http://www.paulcowdrey.webspace.virg...f/sv230714.pdf (pages 14 & 15)

                    It seems that the SRA has no regulatory power at all. What is the point of having a "Code of Conduct" if there is absolutely no enforcement or discipline for those who choose to break it?

                    Enaid, in our parents' time solicitors probably did largely try to conform to Lord Bingham's model - that we should be confident that we could trust them "to the ends of the earth" - but that no longer seems to be the norm and voluntary self-regulation is clearly not working to protect the public from the unscrupulous - more the other way around.

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                      Re: Man 'evicted over legal bill' after solicitor complaint

                      how true they are a waste of time,

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                        Re: Man 'evicted over legal bill' after solicitor complaint

                        This case was on Rip Off Britain this morning - it will be available on watch again shortly. Apparently the SRA couldn't comment on the case as it had been decided by a Judge.
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                          Re: Man 'evicted over legal bill' after solicitor complaint

                          This interest me for 2 reasons.

                          1. I have half sister thats under 18, had 3/4mill left to her in estate, and the trustees ( solisitors ) have been taking the P, and have been very cavalear with the interpritation of the wording of the will. And have played hop scotch

                          2. I had £ 238,000 legal charges, charged against my estate ( in my BK fight ). That i fought, successfully ( eventually ).

                          On this particular man case, i would be demanding the claimant prove the value of the work done to the charges imposed. This is what i did.

                          re - the SRA.... they do work, but you have to go through there regulations, and make sure your argument fits one of there rules..... base your complaint around a breach of there rules directly.
                          crazy council ( as in local council,NELC ) as a member of the public, i don't get mad, i get even
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                            Re: Man 'evicted over legal bill' after solicitor complaint

                            http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...s-6-episode-18

                            32:42 mins in
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