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I just want my Car back, heeelpp

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  • #16
    Re: I just want my Car back, heeelpp

    The Car went to the Garage for an engine conversion and power upgrade which was/is quite an involved event due to the needing of a new management system fitting to power the new engine and also the fitment of a pair of turbo's and all the nesasary pipework,intercollers,radiators etc but being as the garage specialise in this sort of thing i thought it would not be a problem. However, the Boss kept running in to "problems" which delayed the build. The car was damaged while is there possesion to the point it need to be repainted which although i was not happy, went along with it as it would have made sence to be done while it was in quite a stripped down state and agreed to pay half. What i did not expect was the paintwork to be such a bad finish it was no longer the same colour and therefore i insisted it was redone. The lights were also damaged by the garage but by the time they got round to telling me the lights were no longer available and i had to (out of my own pocket) suply the next generation lights. The garage felt the need to invoice me over £2500 for the paintwork stating that it was MY request to be done !!!! and also invoiced me £500 for fitting the rear lights which they had originaly damaged !!!!
    The final invoice i got was for over £5k and had a note with it stating that the work would stop on my car until full payment had been made and once paid would be completed in 4 to 6 weeks which funnily enough has always been the same time span for completion right from the start.
    Also worth noting is the fact that at the date the car was dropped of at the garage it was in a very good and show worthy condition (have photos to prove) and had a resale value of roughly £3500 -£4000 and with the conversion done the car would have had a value of £13,000 as stated by the garage as they were to be supplying an engineers report and valuation on completion of said car.
    Taking that into account, had the car been completed in the agreed 4 to 6 weeks it would have and could have had a resale value of £13,000.
    With that in mind, had I sold it in 2003 and deposited the funds into my Bank account there is the Compound Interest over that period of time to take into account. There is also the Original Value of the car which was £3500+ and the £4000 in cash paid in 2003 so either way the garage are in Dept to me.
    The garage has had my car plus 8k in cash for a job that was originaly quoted and agreed on at £5k
    Regards
    Ian
    Last edited by yellowsierra; 8th October 2011, 18:09:PM.

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    • #17
      Re: I just want my Car back, heeelpp

      Originally posted by teaboy2 View Post
      I think dominic littlewood would have a field day with this one.

      Oh you are so right, yes he would indeed and would make great viewing as the car is quite well known in the ford scene and come to think of it , so is the garage in question and not for all the right things too

      Regards
      Ian

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      • #18
        Re: I just want my Car back, heeelpp

        Any damage done by the company is their liability, therefore they alone are liable for costs of repair for damage done whilst in their possession - Its why they should have liability insurance. However even if they do not have such insurance they are still liable and no doubt your solicitor will make that clear to you and help you recover any costs you had to pay in addition to the costs of the original work you originally requested as well as compensation for loss of compund interest and enjoyment of your property (car). Also have you tried contacting your insurance company about this? Though its probably to late now as i doubt your still paying insurance for the car.
        Please note that this advice is given informally, without liability and without prejudice. Always seek the advice of an insured qualified professional. All my legal and nonlegal knowledge comes from either here (LB),my own personal research and experience and/or as the result of necessity as an Employer and Businessman.

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        • #19
          Re: I just want my Car back, heeelpp

          Originally posted by yellowsierra View Post
          The Car went to the Garage for an engine conversion and power upgrade which was/is quite an involved event due to the needing of a new management system fitting to power the new engine and also the fitment of a pair of turbo's and all the nesasary pipework,intercollers,radiators etc but being as the garage specialise in this sort of thing i thought it would not be a problem.
          One might expect such work to take eight hours at the very most - not eight years!

          However, the Boss kept running in to "problems" which delayed the build.
          That does sound as if he was trying to "stretch the job", rather like crooked plumbers do.

          The car was damaged while is there possesion to the point it need to be repainted
          Why? Did they prang it whilst on a road test or did they set it on fire?

          which although i was not happy, went along with it as it would have made sence to be done while it was in quite a stripped down state and agreed to pay half. What i did not expect was the paintwork to be such a bad finish it was no longer the same colour and therefore i insisted it was redone. The lights were also damaged by the garage but by the time they got round to telling me the lights were no longer available and i had to (out of my own pocket) suply the next generation lights. The garage felt the need to invoice me over £2500 for the paintwork stating that it was MY request to be done !!!! and also invoiced me £500 for fitting the rear lights which they had originaly damaged !!!!
          You should not need to pay for any of the repair work as the vehicle was damaged whilst in their care; indeed, the garage should pay you for any loss of value caused by the incident/accident/their negligence.

          Also worth noting is the fact that at the date the car was dropped of at the garage it was in a very good and show worthy condition (have photos to prove) and had a resale value of roughly £3500 -£4000 and with the conversion done the car would have had a value of £13,000 as stated by the garage as they were to be supplying an engineers report and valuation on completion of said car.

          Taking that into account, had the car been completed in the agreed 4 to 6 weeks it would have and could have had a resale value of £13,000.
          That, then, is the basis for your claim - £13,000 plus compound interest from 2003, plus costs.

          Is the garage run as a limited company?

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          • #20
            Re: I just want my Car back, heeelpp

            Yes, the Garage is run as a limited Company as the Word LTD forms the last part of there Company Name
            But why would that make a differance ?? is it beneficial to me and the claim then ?

            Regards
            Ian

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            • #21
              Re: I just want my Car back, heeelpp

              Hell Yeah, it means you sue the company not the person that owns it. I.e. Sue, Joe Blogs Ltd not mr joe blogs. In otherwords suing the company will attract alot more media interest especially if its a well known company, than suing the individual owner of a soler tradership, which would attract no interest. Plus they will likely have insurance to cover all the costs of the unauthorised work and damage done to your car, plus compensate you for loss of use of the car and any loss of value plus interest.

              Have you actually reported them to trading standards or any other authority yet?
              Please note that this advice is given informally, without liability and without prejudice. Always seek the advice of an insured qualified professional. All my legal and nonlegal knowledge comes from either here (LB),my own personal research and experience and/or as the result of necessity as an Employer and Businessman.

              By using my advice in any form, you agreed to waive all rights to hold myself or any persons representing myself of any liability.

              If you PM me, make sure to include a link to your thread as I don't give out advice in private. All PMs that are sent in missuse (including but not limited to phishing, spam) of the PM application and/or PMs that are threatening or abusive will be reported to the Site Team and if necessary to the police and/or relevant Authority.

              I AM SO GOING TO GET BANNED BY CEL FOR POSTING terrible humour POSTS.

              The Governess; 6th March 2012 GRRRRRR

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              • #22
                Re: I just want my Car back, heeelpp

                Originally posted by teaboy2 View Post
                Hell Yeah, it means you sue the company not the person that owns it. I.e. Sue, Joe Blogs Ltd not mr joe blogs. In otherwords suing the company will attract alot more media interest especially if its a well known company, than suing the individual owner of a soler tradership, which would attract no interest. Plus they will likely have insurance to cover all the costs of the unauthorised work and damage done to your car, plus compensate you for loss of use of the car and any loss of value plus interest.
                As the owner(s) of the company might set up a phoenix company and transfer assets if he/she/it/they wanted to be bloody minded, might it be a worthwhile idea not to sue but to issue a statutory demand, to be followed by a winding up petition?

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                • #23
                  Re: I just want my Car back, heeelpp

                  I shall just have to remember all this for when i see the Solicitor and just hope they will be willing to take on this matter. Just hope it dont cost me am arm and a leg to get my Car back.
                  Have'nt reported them to Trading standards yet either as i am awaiting the advise i get
                  This is all new to me as i have never been in this sort of situation before but it has certanly opened my eyes as to what i can expect.
                  I think the silly idiot garage owner just thinks i am going to pay the 5k invoice

                  Regards
                  Ian

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                  • #24
                    Re: I just want my Car back, heeelpp

                    Originally posted by yellowsierra View Post
                    I shall just have to remember all this for when i see the Solicitor and just hope they will be willing to take on this matter. Just hope it dont cost me am arm and a leg to get my Car back.
                    Unless you have actually seen your vehicle in the garage, there seems little reason to suppose you will ever get your vehicle returned to you, regardless of the number of limbs you donate for that purpose. It seems more likely that the garage might buy a vehicle that resembles that owned by you and swap the various plates over.

                    Have'nt reported them to Trading standards yet either as i am awaiting the advise i get
                    In the holy name of your granny's preferred sky-fairy, why have you delayed further? Nothing a lawyer might tell you would make you culpable, nor absolve the garage of its responsibility.

                    Tomorrow morning, call Consumer Direct, on 0845 4 04 05 06 and tell them about it.

                    Does the garage also carry out MoT tests? If it does, you may wish to contact VOSA (link) on the basis that, if a company is at all less than honest in one aspect of his dealings, they may be a bit crooked elsewhere too.

                    I think the silly idiot garage owner just thinks i am going to pay the 5k invoice
                    He certainly has every reason to suppose you might.
                    Last edited by CleverClogs; 9th October 2011, 17:42:PM.

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                    • #25
                      Re: I just want my Car back, heeelpp

                      Here you go:

                      http://www.dominiclittlewood.com/
                      If you think nobody cares if you're alive, try missing a couple of payments.

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                      • #26
                        Re: I just want my Car back, heeelpp

                        Originally posted by pompeyfaith View Post
                        Thanks for that, i have just emailed them and posted a link to this thread and also given them a statement of events

                        Lets see if they get back to me as i am sure dom would rip right into the garage boss and maybe he could get my car and money back...who knows

                        Ian

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                        • #27
                          Re: I just want my Car back, heeelpp

                          Yellowsierra,

                          yup you never know, he did a good job of ripping into a recon engine resaler from wast drayton i while ago who had ripped of many consumers.

                          Good Luck
                          If you think nobody cares if you're alive, try missing a couple of payments.

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                          • #28
                            Re: I just want my Car back, heeelpp

                            WEll, little update is my Solicitor has me booked in for Tuesday to go through our options and what's on offer and what we are going to do.

                            I'll keep you posted

                            Ian

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