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  • Rks2020
    started a topic PCN- Gemini

    PCN- Gemini

    Hi all ,

    Requesting some help please.

    Just received a PCN through the post for from Gemini.
    Had parked for a few minutes outside our nursery school to drop little one off to dance lessons on a Saturday afternoon , was in disabled bay.

    The area where car was parked belongs to the nursery not LBhealthcare and there are no sign posts indicating that that side of the road is
    overseen by Gemini. There are signs opposite LB healthcare which i am well aware of but the side i parked is for the nursery.

    The PCN says: " Failure to display a valid blue badge " at LB healthcare.
    " the contravention is a Breach of the terms and conditions of use of the facility. Signs are clearly displayed thoughout
    the area showing these terms and conditions. "

    I know very well that Gemini issue tickets if parked on the side of LBHealthcare but the other side of the side road ,
    all nursery staff and parents use.

    Should I reply that the ticket issued is not an area controlled by Gemini or ask for contract showing which area of the
    road they oversea as there are absolutely no signs on th esid eof the road the car was parked.

    Thanks for any help in advance.
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  • Rks2020
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    Hi ,

    yes, only written to them advising them via their website that this has been disputed and for them to cease their activities.

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  • des8
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    You are dealing with a parking company and a debt collector who collects only on behalf of such companies.

    Do not expect them to act reasonably or fairly at any time.
    Their business plan is to issue as many charge notices as possible, and then to threaten legal proceedings to enforce them.
    They hope most people will just pay up.
    Those that don't will, in some cases, be sued.
    Sometimes they discontinue the case at the last minute, or just don't turn up for the hearing
    Some of those cases where they appear, they will lose because a decent defence has been made.
    Some they win
    county court is a bit of a lottery

    If you do intend to enter into correspondence with them (not recommended except as advised above) do not identify the driver as it will make it harder to defend when/if it reaches court

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  • Rks2020
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    I have checked with council and they do not own the land . Only one side of road has signs where it says it controlled by Gemini.
    The other side belongs to the nursery and at the end there are 2 spaces which have sign post for blue badge.
    Apparently from what i searched - " There are no statutory concessions for Blue Badge holders on private land"
    Also there is no parking restriction signage for those 2 parking bays , other than it says for blue badge holders.
    I will write to Gemini again asking for contract to show that area is conyrilled by them and also challenge there is no signage to say so .

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  • Rks2020
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    Ok , I will write , do they have any case to proceed against me though ?
    Do I need to write to the company raising this to say im disputing their fine ?
    Thanks

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  • des8
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    write advising them the charge is being disputed and they should cease collection activities.
    They will ignore you!

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  • Rks2020
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    Hi all ,

    I have now received a debt recovery letter from dept recovery plus.
    Asking for £170 pay by 7nov or do nothing where they inform their legal team.

    What do i do now please ?

    Thanks

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  • Rks2020
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    Yes ,seems very odd ,I will call them today. Also the link only works from the text message not when type it in search bar on pc.

    Further more is this not breaking data protection law , where did they get this mobile number from ?

    Just called the council , there is a recorded message saying if you have received a text there it is a scam , ignore it they do not send out text messages.
    Last edited by Rks2020; 15th October 2024, 07:54:AM.

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  • des8
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    Other than the gov.uk website those other links don't work for me.

    contact your local council and see if they employ Gemini as Parking Enforcement Officers.

    A parking company cannot issue fines. Fines are imposed by the court, councils levy Penalty charges, private companies can only issue invoices for charges.
    There is something odd about that text message

    bit.ly is a "connections platform" ... whatever that may be!

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  • Rks2020
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    Hi All,

    Just received a text saying :

    Your PCN will reach the final payment deadline on 15/Otc/2024. If you pay overdue, you will be fined up to 200% of the original
    amount or the seized vehicle. If you pay now, you will receive penalty reduction of 70 pound. Please pay immediately.

    https://bit.ly/3Np8U8n?RFPI=1vYzr7hTjpa

    Thank you again for your cooperation.



    Message was exactly as above with spelling errors. Don't see where , who obtained mobile number.

    The link takes you to Gov website ? but with this address : https://pngisgcs.top/fine#/
    yet official web site address is : https://www.gov.uk/pay-parking-fine
    Last edited by Rks2020; 14th October 2024, 13:19:PM.

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  • Rks2020
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    Ok Thanks

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  • des8
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    I shouldn't worry about it at all.
    They have so many errors I can't see anyway they can enforce their invalid charge

    If you hear any more come back to this thread

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  • Rks2020
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    Originally posted by des8 View Post
    In that case I would ignore them and await a "notice to keeper"..at which point they will probably make even more errors.
    Hi all,

    Not received any further correspondence , can they issue a default penalty as they had replied to reply via their appeals section on their website?
    just wondering .

    Thanks

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  • Rks2020
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    Ok , so i just sit tight now.

    btw, I emailed the owners of LB health care and they confirmed that their parking is only alongside their building.( side which has Gemini operating )
    That the opposite side belongs to nursery. The nursery , think I mentioned earlier informed me that the 2 disabled bays were council owned.

    Thanks

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  • des8
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    In that case I would ignore them and await a "notice to keeper"..at which point they will probably make even more errors.

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