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    I have a ticket from County Parking Enforcement Agency back in Feb 2019, which has now been passed to Debt Recovery Plus Ltd who have sent a 'notice of intended court action'.

    The reason given was 'parked causing an obstruction' (which it wasn't - we have photos). They are a member of IPC.

    Should I do anything or continue ignoring letters?
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  • #2
    Ignoring the letters was your first mistake.

    But you can ignore DRP.

    post up a redacted copy of the OCN you received, but leave dates

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    • #3
      Originally posted by ostell View Post
      Ignoring the letters was your first mistake.

      But you can ignore DRP.

      post up a redacted copy of the *OCN you received, but leave dates
      *Postal PCN, I guess?

      miaow99

      Was there a notice to driver (NtD = windscreen ticket)

      Could you also post up pics of car park signs?


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      • #4
        Thanks,

        The windscreen ticket is here:


        http://i66.tinypic.com/33pak5j.jpg

        NTK is here:

        http://i66.tinypic.com/2cohlxs.jpg


        Date of windscreen ticket was 14/2/19
        Date of NTK was 19/3/19.

        Amount claimed was £120, although DRP are now claiming £160.

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        • #5
          Unfortunately you've redacted most, if not all, of the info we need.
          NtK..date of issue? *Time of issue? Date of sending?
          (*If a period of time is given for the alleged contravention, what is it?)
          CAVEAT LECTOR

          This is only my opinion - "Opinions are made to be changed --or how is truth to be got at?" (Byron)

          You and I do not see things as they are. We see things as we are.
          Cohen, Herb


          There is danger when a man throws his tongue into high gear before he
          gets his brain a-going.
          Phelps, C. C.


          "They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance!"
          The last words of John Sedgwick

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          • #6
            Sorry, here are the dates:

            Dashboard ticket:
            1. Date of issue 14/02/2019
            2. Time of issue 13:51 (no time period, just the time)

            NTK:
            1. Date of sending: 19/03/2019
            2. PCN Date of issue: 14/02/2019
            3. PCN Time of issue: 13:51

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            • #7
              Forgot to include signage!

              Here:

              http://i64.tinypic.com/104g2dy.jpg

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              • #8
                Thanks.
                Have you at any time communicated with the parking co/sols, or made any kind of written appeal?
                If so, have you ID'd the driver?
                CAVEAT LECTOR

                This is only my opinion - "Opinions are made to be changed --or how is truth to be got at?" (Byron)

                You and I do not see things as they are. We see things as we are.
                Cohen, Herb


                There is danger when a man throws his tongue into high gear before he
                gets his brain a-going.
                Phelps, C. C.


                "They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance!"
                The last words of John Sedgwick

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by miaow99 View Post
                  Forgot to include signage!

                  Here:

                  http://i64.tinypic.com/104g2dy.jpg
                  No, I have not responded or contacted them at all in anyway.

                  They originally had an old address (DVLA address needed updating), but they have since updated that by means of a trace (I assume using electoral roll).

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                  • #10
                    As long as the driver is not ID'd, they can only try to enforce against the registered keeper via the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (PoFA), Schedule 4, ss 7 & 8 (in your particular case, as a notice to driver was issued.)
                    But to do so, it is mandatory to state a period of parking.
                    https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga...dule/4/enacted
                    Note the words "The notice must....." in both sections 7 & 8, followed by ....period of parking.......
                    Basically, both notices are toilet paper for the purposes of PoFA
                    CAVEAT LECTOR

                    This is only my opinion - "Opinions are made to be changed --or how is truth to be got at?" (Byron)

                    You and I do not see things as they are. We see things as we are.
                    Cohen, Herb


                    There is danger when a man throws his tongue into high gear before he
                    gets his brain a-going.
                    Phelps, C. C.


                    "They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance!"
                    The last words of John Sedgwick

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                    • #11
                      Thanks, that's good to know.

                      Do I need to do anything for now or just keep ignoring unless I get a letter of claim ?

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                      • #12
                        hang on i think we may be overlooking something here.

                        Parked causing an obstruction? where? there is a prohibition on parking on roadways, verges and yellow lines so there can be no contract at all if the vehicle was parked there for example
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by pt2537 View Post
                          hang on i think we may be overlooking something here.

                          Parked causing an obstruction? where? there is a prohibition on parking on roadways, verges and yellow lines so there can be no contract at all if the vehicle was parked there for example

                          It was parked against a wall on a road, opposite the entrance to a drive. (no yellow lines etc). There was enough room to get out of the drive easily, and clearly enough room to get an emergency vehicle through the gap. Does that make a difference?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by miaow99 View Post
                            Thanks, that's good to know.
                            Do I need to do anything for now or just keep ignoring unless I get a letter of claim ?
                            Ignore DRP....they're just powerless third party debt collectors.
                            & if you get a letter purporting to be from solicitors (probably Gladstones), look carefully at who you are instructed to pay.
                            It's often DRP.
                            CAVEAT LECTOR

                            This is only my opinion - "Opinions are made to be changed --or how is truth to be got at?" (Byron)

                            You and I do not see things as they are. We see things as we are.
                            Cohen, Herb


                            There is danger when a man throws his tongue into high gear before he
                            gets his brain a-going.
                            Phelps, C. C.


                            "They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance!"
                            The last words of John Sedgwick

                            Comment

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