County Parking Enforcement Agency

[miaow99]

I have a ticket from County Parking Enforcement Agency back in Feb 2019, which has now been passed to Debt Recovery Plus Ltd who have sent a 'notice of intended court action'.

The reason given was 'parked causing an obstruction' (which it wasn't - we have photos). They are a member of IPC.

Should I do anything or continue ignoring letters?

[ostell]

Ignoring the letters was your first mistake.

But you can ignore DRP.

post up a redacted copy of the OCN you received, but leave dates

[charitynjw]

Ignoring the letters was your first mistake.

But you can ignore DRP.

post up a redacted copy of the *OCN you received, but leave dates

*Postal PCN, I guess?

miaow99

Was there a notice to driver (NtD = windscreen ticket)

Could you also post up pics of car park signs?

[miaow99]

Thanks,

The windscreen ticket is here:


http://i66.tinypic.com/33pak5j.jpg

NTK is here:

http://i66.tinypic.com/2cohlxs.jpg


Date of windscreen ticket was 14/2/19
Date of NTK was 19/3/19.

Amount claimed was £120, although DRP are now claiming £160.

[charitynjw]

Unfortunately you've redacted most, if not all, of the info we need.
NtK..date of issue? *Time of issue? Date of sending?
(*If a period of time is given for the alleged contravention, what is it?)

[miaow99]

Sorry, here are the dates:

Dashboard ticket:
1. Date of issue 14/02/2019
2. Time of issue 13:51 (no time period, just the time)

NTK:
1. Date of sending: 19/03/2019
2. PCN Date of issue: 14/02/2019
3. PCN Time of issue: 13:51

[miaow99]

Forgot to include signage!

Here:

http://i64.tinypic.com/104g2dy.jpg

[charitynjw]

Thanks.
Have you at any time communicated with the parking co/sols, or made any kind of written appeal?
If so, have you ID'd the driver?

[miaow99]

Forgot to include signage!

Here:

http://i64.tinypic.com/104g2dy.jpg

No, I have not responded or contacted them at all in anyway.

They originally had an old address (DVLA address needed updating), but they have since updated that by means of a trace (I assume using electoral roll).

[charitynjw]

As long as the driver is not ID'd, they can only try to enforce against the registered keeper via the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (PoFA), Schedule 4, ss 7 & 8 (in your particular case, as a notice to driver was issued.)
But to do so, it is mandatory to state a period of parking.
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga...dule/4/enacted
Note the words "The notice must....." in both sections 7 & 8, followed by ....period of parking.......
Basically, both notices are toilet paper for the purposes of PoFA

[miaow99]

Thanks, that's good to know.

Do I need to do anything for now or just keep ignoring unless I get a letter of claim ?

[pt2537]

hang on i think we may be overlooking something here.

Parked causing an obstruction? where? there is a prohibition on parking on roadways, verges and yellow lines so there can be no contract at all if the vehicle was parked there for example

[miaow99]

hang on i think we may be overlooking something here.

Parked causing an obstruction? where? there is a prohibition on parking on roadways, verges and yellow lines so there can be no contract at all if the vehicle was parked there for example

It was parked against a wall on a road, opposite the entrance to a drive. (no yellow lines etc). There was enough room to get out of the drive easily, and clearly enough room to get an emergency vehicle through the gap. Does that make a difference?

[charitynjw]

Thanks, that's good to know.
Do I need to do anything for now or just keep ignoring unless I get a letter of claim ?

Ignore DRP....they're just powerless third party debt collectors.
& if you get a letter purporting to be from solicitors (probably Gladstones), look carefully at who you are instructed to pay.
It's often DRP.