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  • #16
    Originally posted by islandgirl View Post
    What is all the Sovereign, Crown, By reasonable Accommodation stuff? And what is meant by underwriters? I have been a LL for almost 20 years and have not seen anything like this before!
    It's nonsense that goes about of social media about being 'Sovereign Citizens' and that Acts of parliament are not laws, they require consent that these 'Sovereign Citizens' do not give.

    They basically claim that only the Magna Carta applies legally and all our laws and rights are written in it, which have not changed.

    I hope the OP has just come across this stuff on a forum or social media and doesn't believe it.

    That is why I have asked whether they realise that if they are not on the tenancy agreement and the tenant has vacated they are essentially telling the landlord they are squatting.

    Because if they are, the landlord doesn't have to wait two months to commence proceedings, they can get on with it now.
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    • #17
      Thanks Jaguarsuk - I have come across the Freeman on the Land rubbish in court but not in the rental sector! Appreciate the explanation and your advice is very sound on this matter - hope the OP takes it.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by islandgirl View Post
        Thanks Jaguarsuk - I have come across the Freeman on the Land rubbish in court but not in the rental sector! Appreciate the explanation and your advice is very sound on this matter - hope the OP takes it.
        It's the exact same rubbish as the Freeman of the Land, they just interchange that name with 'Sovereign Citizen.'
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        • #19
          Originally posted by islandgirl View Post
          These letters are entirely weird. I am a LL and have never seen anything like them. Leaving that aside, no you do not have to leave. The S21 notice requests that you do. If you choose not to the LL must go to court to remove you which will take some time. However you will pay all the costs of the court action.
          Originally posted by islandgirl View Post
          What is all the Sovereign, Crown, By reasonable Accommodation stuff? And what is meant by underwriters? I have been a LL for almost 20 years and have not seen anything like this before!
          I dont know what an LL stands for. But this research that I have done has come from "Bill Turner from New Zelands" youtube channels
          Go check him out! there is a lot of good stuff in there that you will discover as a LL facts of law that have been hidden from you to keep us all enslaved.

          Now Im not one of those who wants to go around fiddling parking and speeding tickets and fines and that kind of stuff. Im more interested in accessing my treasure chest; and I will leave it at that!

          But there is a lot of good stuff in his videos including letters to bailifs banks and courts and stuff

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          • #20
            Originally posted by islandgirl View Post
            However you will pay all the costs of the court action.
            So you are saying that after the section 21 has been served that I am liable to pay all court fees. How will they enforce this; though my deposit, bond with the council or something ells?

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            • #21
              Originally posted by islandgirl View Post
              What is all the Sovereign, Crown, By reasonable Accommodation stuff? And what is meant by underwriters? I have been a LL for almost 20 years and have not seen anything like this before!
              Originally posted by jaguarsuk View Post

              Are you on any tenancy agreement, whether as a tenant or named person over the age of 18?

              If you are not, do you realise you are writing to the landlord claiming to be a squatter?

              If you are not, why are you residing in the property? How did it come about?

              Additionally why are you opening mail addressed to 'Tony?'

              Or does 'Tony' still live there and is opening it?
              Originally posted by jaguarsuk View Post

              The letters appear in my eyes to essentially be saying 'we're not the tenant, so you can't ask us to leave under this law, go to court.'
              No I am not!
              I am Tony is the Sovereign, who represents the Crown MT TONY XXXX is the crown. The underwriters I dont know! that was all there was in the template letters (but would need to find out if was going to use that in court to represent myself)
              All I am saying in the letter is that I am not "You" and the letter is addressed to the wrong person

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              • #22
                Originally posted by islandgirl View Post
                Thanks Jaguarsuk - I have come across the Freeman on the Land rubbish in court but not in the rental sector! Appreciate the explanation and your advice is very sound on this matter - hope the OP takes it.
                Originally posted by jaguarsuk View Post

                It's nonsense that goes about of social media about being 'Sovereign Citizens' and that Acts of parliament are not laws, they require consent that these 'Sovereign Citizens' do not give.

                They basically claim that only the Magna Carta applies legally and all our laws and rights are written in it, which have not changed.

                I hope the OP has just come across this stuff on a forum or social media and doesn't believe it.

                That is why I have asked whether they realise that if they are not on the tenancy agreement and the tenant has vacated they are essentially telling the landlord they are squatting.

                Because if they are, the landlord doesn't have to wait two months to commence proceedings, they can get on with it now.
                Its not about freeman of the land rubbish and its not about magna carter either!
                I would go and check his work out "Bill Turner New Zeland"youtube channel
                Its more like the bible and how that has been instrined into law then magna carta

                If it where about freeman of the land rubbish then there would be no crown on there
                The sovereign is the given name Tony the christian name the living man
                The crown is the legal entity; the name given by the goverment MR TONY XXXXXX
                And the person's personal representative, is the sovereign representing the crown
                So you have the father the sun and the holy ghost (so your getting it all now!)
                Last edited by HunterBargan; 11th March 2022, 21:21:PM.

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                • #23
                  Oh dear. You have gone a long way down the rabbit hole. Get out before it is too late. None of this works in court. If a valid S21 is served and you do not leave you will be evicted by the court and will have to pay the court costs. LL means Landlord (I am one).

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by islandgirl View Post
                    Oh dear. You have gone a long way down the rabbit hole. Get out before it is too late. None of this works in court. If a valid S21 is served and you do not leave you will be evicted by the court and will have to pay the court costs. LL means Landlord (I am one).
                    they call it David Ickes dot connector. But if you watch a few of Bill Turners videos on youtube he dose say from time to time; you have no idea how deep the rabbit hole goes if you keep going

                    But I am look for property at the moment; hoping that just incase I dont find anything in time that this letter may work! You say none of it works in court; But have you actully see any one rebut a "You" letter before?

                    Anyway hear is my letter completed

                    -----------------------------
                    Private
                    Tony as Persons Personal Representative

                    Flat 3, 3XXXXXXXXXXXX

                    Manchester

                    M12 XXXXXXXXX



                    Darryl Borrello in her private capacity

                    849 Kingsway

                    East Didsbury

                    Manchester

                    M20 5PA


                    12-02-2022


                    Dear Darryl Borrello in her private and unlimited capacity
                    Without Prejudice


                    We the underwriters thank Darryl Borrello for her letter and correspondents which we received on the 10-04-2022 but believe that Darryl Borrello has made a mistake!

                    While the letter and correspondents are addressed to Tony XXXXXX, they claims and states the following.

                    1. I have been instructed by the landlady Jody Rooney-Hart to serve a section 21 to ask “"You"” to vacate the property by the 27th May 2020.

                    2. We are Giving “"You"” two months notice…

                    3. We will carry out an inspection on 1st April to see if “"You”" have been able to remove anything…..

                    4. Please call me if "“You"” wish to discuses this further.

                    5. “"You"” are required to leave the below address after 27th May 2022. If you do not leave, your landlord may apply to the court for an order under section 21 (1) or (4) of the Housing Act 1988 requiring “You” to give up possession

                    As we are not "“You"” we are returning this letter and its correspondents to Darryl Borrello so that Darryl Borrello may forward this letter and its correspondents to “You”. That is unless Darryl Borrello could confirm who “you” is and in doing so will return the enclosed documents to the named person.
                    Notice


                    Failure by Darryl Borrello in her private capacity to respond within 10 days from recite of this correspondence shall constitute legal accord and satisfaction of all claims settled and closed
                    By reasonable Accommodation


                    Crown: SMITH (De Facto)…………………..................................... .................................................. .............……………..………………


                    Sovereign: Tony [CD} (De Jure)-----------------…….….............................................. .......................…………………..


                    Private Persons Personal Representative [AB]: Christian…………..................................... ............


                    Last edited by HunterBargan; 13th March 2022, 02:39:AM.

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                    • #25
                      You is the named individual who the letter is addressed to . They do not have to name the person in every sentence. Your letter back to them can be safely ignored by them . A court will not throw the case out because they are addressing you by the word you within the letter. You also can’t give them a time limit to respond unless the law says you can give them a time limit.

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                      • #26
                        The letter won't work.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Ukmicky View Post
                          You also can’t give them a time limit to respond unless the law says you can give them a time limit.
                          Maxims of Law

                          January 16, 2021 by ThinknKnow
                          Ten essential maxims or precepts in commercial law
                          • A WORKMAN IS WORTHY OF HIS HIRE. Exodus 20:15; Lev. 19:13; Mat. 10:10; Luke 10 "7; II Tim. 2:6. Legal maxim: "It is against equity for freemen not to have the free disposal of their own property."
                          • ALL ARE EQUAL UNDER THE LAW. (God's Law - Moral and Natural Law) Exodus 21:23-25; Lev. 24: 17-21; Deut. 1;17, 19:21; Mat. 22:36-40; Luke 10:17; Col. 3:25. The second maxim is "Equality before the law" and “No one is above the law". This is founded on both Natural and Moral law and is binding on everyone. For someone to say, or act as though, he is "above the law" is insane. This is the major insanity in the world today. Man continues to live, act, believe, and form systems, organizations, governments, laws and processes which presume to be able to supersede or abrogate Natural or Moral Law. But, under commercial law, Natural and Moral Law are binding on everyone, and no one can escape it. Commerce, by the law of nations, should not to be converted into a monopoly for the private gain of the few.
                          • IN COMMERCE TRUTH IS SOVEREIGN. (Exodus 20:16; Ps. 117:2; John 8:32; II Cor. 13:8 ). This one is one of the most comforting maxims one could have, and the foundation for your peace-of-mind and security and your capacity to win and triumph -- to get your remedy. Truth is sovereign -- and the Sovereign tells only the truth. Your word is your bond. If truth were not sovereign in commerce (between all human action and inter-relations) there would be no basis for anything. No basis for law and order, no basis no accountability, there would be no standards, no capacity to resolve anything. It would mean "anything goes", "each man for himself", and "nothing matters". That's worse than the law of the jungle.
                          • TRUTH IS EXPRESSED IN THE FORM OF AN AFFIDAVIT. (Lev. 5:4-5; Lev. 6:3-5; Lev. 19:11-13: Num. 30:2; Mat. 5:33; James 5: 12). An affidavit is your solemn expression of your truth. In commerce, an affidavit must be accompanied and must underlay and form the foundation for any commercial transactions. There can be no valid commercial transaction without someone putting their neck on the line and stating, "this is true, correct, complete and not meant to mislead." When you issue an affidavit, it is a double edged sword; it cuts both ways. Someone has to take responsibility for saying that it is a real situation. It can be called a true bill, as they say in the Grand Jury. When you issue an affidavit in commerce you get the power of an affidavit. You also incur the liability, because this becomes a situation where other people might be adversely affected by it. Things change as a result of your affidavit; things which are going to affect people's lives. If what you say in your affidavit is, in fact, not true, then those who are adversely affected can come back at you with justifiable recourse because you lied. You have told a lie as if it were the truth. People depend on the truth of your affidavit and can be damaged if you lied.
                          • AN UNREBUTTED AFFIDAVIT STANDS AS TRUTH IN COMMERCE. 12 Pet. 1:25; Heb. 6:13-15; Claims made in your affidavit, if not rebutted, emerge as the truth of the matter. Legal Maxim: "He who does not deny, admits."
                          • AN UNREBUTTED AFFIDAVIT BECOMES THE JUDGMENT IN COMMERCE. (Heb. 6:16- 17. There is nothing left to resolve. Any proceeding in a court, tribunal, or arbitration forum consists of a contest, or duel, of commercial affidavits, wherein the points remaining un-rebutted in the end stand as truth and matter, to which the judgment of the law is applied.
                          • IN COMMERCE, FOR ANY MATTER TO BE RESOLVED IT MUST BE EXPRESSED. (Heb. 4:16; Phil. 4:6; Eph. 6:19-21). No one is a mind reader. You have to put your position out there, you have to state what the issue is, to have something to talk about and resolve. Legal Maxim: "He who fails to assert his rights has none.
                          • HE WHO LEAVES THE BATTLEFIELD FIRST LOSES BY DEFAULT. (Book of Job; Mat. 10:22; This means that an affidavit which is un-rebutted, point for point, stands as "truth in commerce" because it hasn't been rebutted and as such has left the battlefield. Governments allegedly exist to resolve disputes, conflicts and discover the truth. They allegedly exist to be substitutes for the dueling field and the battlefield so that disputes and conflicts regarding of affidavits of truth can be resolved peaceably and reasonably. People can take their disputes into court and have them opened up and resolved, instead of resorting to violence. Legal Maxim: "He who does not repel a wrong when he can, occasions it".
                          • SACRIFICE IS THE MEASURE OF CREDIBILITY (NO WILLINGNESS TO SACRIFICE = NO LIABILITY, RESPONSIBILITY, AUTHORITY OR MEASURE OF CONVICTION). (Acts 7, life/ death of Stephen). Nothing ventured, nothing gained. A person must be willing to put himself on the line, assume a position, and take a stand with regard the matter at hand. One cannot realize the potential gain without also exposing himself to the potential of loss. One who is not damaged, put at risk, or willing to swear an oath on his commercial liability to claim authority for the truth of his statements and the legitimacy of his actions, has no basis to assert claims or charges and forfeits all credibility and rights. "He who bears the burden ought also to derive the benefit".
                          • SATISFACTION OF A LIEN. (Gen. 2-3; Mat. 4; Revelation.). Legal Maxim: "If the plaintiff does not prove his case, the defendant is absolved". In commerce, a lien or claim can be satisfied in any one of three ways.
                            • By someone rebutting your affidavit with another affidavit of their own, point by point, until the matter is resolved as to who is correct.
                            • You convene a Sheriff's common law jury, based on the Seventh Amendment, concerning a dispute involving a claim of more than $20. Or, you can use three disinterested parties to make judgment.
                            • The only other way to satisfy a lien is to pay it.

                          So if all are equal under the law, then I have much standing as the judge. So if I establish my court first then I have my standing in the court

                          So if the landlady fails to respond to my letter after the 10 days of grace. Then I can issue her with a "Statement of claims order (to set aside void judgement as of rights)". Stamp all my documents so the court can not do stamp them. Fill out the back of the form pay the stamp duty stopping them turning it in to a negotiable instrument and hence stopping them puting a bond on it and floating it on the stock market

                          Judgement to the defendant in my own court

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                          • #28
                            ooops!!! did I forget
                            Originally posted by HunterBargan View Post
                            [*]AN UNREBUTTED AFFIDAVIT STANDS AS TRUTH IN COMMERCE. 12 Pet. 1:25; Heb. 6:13-15; Claims made in your affidavit, if not rebutted, emerge as the truth of the matter. Legal Maxim: "He who does not deny, admits."
                            [*]AN UNREBUTTED AFFIDAVIT BECOMES THE JUDGMENT IN COMMERCE. (Heb. 6:16- 17. There is nothing left to resolve. Any proceeding in a court, tribunal, or arbitration forum consists of a contest, or duel, of commercial affidavits, wherein the points remaining un-rebutted in the end stand as truth and matter, to which the judgment of the law is applied.
                            So if the landlady fails to rebut my pressumptions then is this not the Judgement in commerce?

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                            • #29
                              Whether it's 'Bill from New Zealand' or 'Freeman of Land' or 'Sovereign Citizens' it is non sense and no amount of you regurgitating it will change that. I suggest instead of telling us to watch 'Bill from New Zealand' that you stop, delete your YouTube account and start a new one where you don't watch that type of content, so the algorithm doesn't drag you back in.

                              You have now been served a correct section 21 Notice by the landlord, if you do not leave they will file proceedings for and get a possession order. That order will include you paying costs and i you don't leave when the order states either Bailiffs or High Court Enforcement Officers will come to throw you out.
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                              My posts here are based on my experience of a variety of life events. I have no formal legal training & if in doubt take professional legal advice or contact CAB. If you follow anything I write here you do so at your own risk & I accept no liability for any loss, costs or other outcomes.

                              Private messages are disabled as help is only offered publicly. I do not come on here in the evening, at weekends or on public holidays.

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                              • #30
                                Jaguarsuk is absolutely 100% correct. Listen to the advice. None of this will work - it is absolute rubbish. As you say you will win in your own court but that will not help when you are being thrown out by the baliffs and handed a huge bill for the process. This thread is becoming so silly I cannot help but think it must be a wind up...

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