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    My daughter was caught stealing at a local chain retailer. They didn't press charges and just banned her from the store for life, and she has been banned from the actual shopping center for a year.

    She admitted to me that she's done it before about 6 weeks ago, and she was afraid that they would decide to go through all the store footage, find her doing it a second time, and have her arrested. I said it's unlikely they still have footage from that time or that they would bother searching for a needle in the haystack, and not to worry, but she is still worrying. She's very embarrassed and ashamed of herself and is unwell, suffering from depression and anxiety, which is what I think the cause of this uncharacteristic behaviour. I want to reassure her, but have no real knowledge of common practices or legally what could happen to her, so she's not taking much from my reassurances.

    How long do stores usually keep footage before writing it over? Are they allowed to keep it forever, or is there a standard period before having to get rid of images of the general public? What are the chances of them looking for her on the footage for the chance of any past offending and having her arrested? she has a clean record, and this is the first time she has ever been in trouble.

    She admitted to nothing aside to the one she was caught red handed with. She's wanting to appeal the shopping center ban, but is worried if she does, they'll get the shop in question to start digging to see if she's done anymore thieving in their shop, and will end up in more trouble if she fights the decision.

    Thank you in advance for any help or advice you can give me.

  • #2
    Re: Shoplifting

    Why appeal the Ban take it as punishment for being stupid,it turned out well for her go somewhere else and don't make the same mistake its not worth it.
    Hope you gave her a rollicking for her own sake

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    • #3
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      How and by whom was she supposedly "banned" from the shopping centre?

      Does the shopping centre have doors at the entrances and exits, at which one must shew one's ID card or internal passport?

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      • #4
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        Originally posted by CleverClogs View Post
        How and by whom was she supposedly "banned" from the shopping centre?

        Does the shopping centre have doors at the entrances and exits, at which one must shew one's ID card or internal passport?
        She was told by a man that he was the head of security at the shopping center. It is a small place. 15-20 shops. So she could be seen if she was unlucky. She was issued with a 12 month ban letter which she was told to sign. He also asked to take her picture and she said no, thank god. I wasn't with her and she wasn't all there due to her medication and didn't have the presence of mind to ask many questions.

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        • #5
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          How old is she?

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          • #6
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            Originally posted by CleverClogs View Post
            How old is she?
            she is 25

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            • #7
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              Originally posted by catnip55 View Post
              she is 25
              Does she work or does she claim ESA?

              (If she doesn't work or claim ESA, she darned well should claim ESA as her poor impulse control should make her a shoe-in for the Support Group.)

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              • #8
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                Originally posted by CleverClogs View Post
                Does she work or does she claim ESA?

                (If she doesn't work or claim ESA, she darned well should claim ESA as her poor impulse control should make her a shoe-in for the Support Group.)
                She does. She had to give up her job last year due to her ill health, and started claiming a few months ago when she ran out of money.

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                • #9
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                  She should also ask about changing her medication, as some anxiolytic drugs are less likely to impair one's impulse control.

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                  • #10
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                    The thought does occur that, as your daughter is unwell, the bans might be considered to be contrary to the Equality Act.

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                    • #11
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                      Originally posted by CleverClogs View Post
                      The thought does occur that, as your daughter is unwell, the bans might be considered to be contrary to the Equality Act.
                      I said something similar to her. She is clearly unwell, she did tell them that when she was having trouble focusing while speaking to them because they thought she wasn't listening.
                      She's just afraid and constantly worrying about what she did, and so doesn't want to take it further in case they go digging and find out about that other occurrence, even though I find it hard to believe they'd be able to sift through an endless amount of footage, trying to find any time she was in the store. As we live in an area without much in the way of shops without travelling (something she can't do at the moment as she has horrible panic attacks) that one little shopping center was the only place I could coax her to go just so she got out a bit.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Shoplifting

                        Originally posted by catnip55 View Post
                        She's wanting to appeal the shopping center ban, but is worried if she does, they'll get the shop in question to start digging to see if she's done anymore thieving in their shop, and will end up in more trouble if she fights the decision.
                        The shopping centre is private property and to all intents and purposes, they can ban who they like, when they like. She has no inherent right to go there, or to do as she pleases when she does.

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                        • #13
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                          Originally posted by enquirer View Post

                          The shopping centre is private property and to all intents and purposes, they can ban who they like, when they like. She has no inherent right to go there, or to do as she pleases when she does.

                          I understand that, but this shopping center does offer you the chance to appeal.

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                          • #14
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                            Originally posted by enquirer View Post

                            The shopping centre is private property and to all intents and purposes, they can ban who they like, when they like.
                            And for whatever reason they like?

                            Do you suppose it would be lawful for the shopping centre to forbid access to non-white people?

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                            • #15
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                              Originally posted by CleverClogs View Post
                              And for whatever reason they like?

                              Do you suppose it would be lawful for the shopping centre to forbid access to non-white people?
                              What's this got to do with it CC?

                              They banned her because she is a SHOPLIFTER.

                              I think she got off lightly.

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