When is midnight?

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And here is a definition, found by searching online for "midnight definition" : https://www.lawinsider.com/dictionary/midnight

"midnight means the last moment of a given day occurring before commencement of the next day. For example, a date of ‘Midnight on December 31, 2016’ would mean the last moment occurring after 11:59:59pm on December 31, 2016 before the date becomes January 1, 2017."

yeah, trust me i've already hit google...

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Why not just pay by midnight tonight to be on the safe side?

I will repeat.....You are completely missing the point.

I am perfectly capable of paying it whenever....but that matters not.

I thought my question was simple enough? I will rewrite it for you....If today is Wednesday, when is 'midnight tomorrow'?

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I think this is being taken a bit too seriously.
OP has already suggested it is an academic question for him, and I found it fun to look for an answer.
It is a bit like medieval philosophers asking how many angels can dance on the point of a pin,

Thank you.

I do have a genuine motive in asking this so it's not strictly academic.

The answer either way doesn't matter to me personally...other than it may lead to the cancellation of several hundred
tickets.

[des8]

So the answer lies in the SC ruling referenced in post 13

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So the answer lies in the SC ruling referenced in post 13

Lol....and how do you interpret 'midnight tomorrow' in light of your post #13??

I ask as i can't make sense of it...

Its simples....Today is Wednesday, sign says 'Pay by midnight tomorrow' when is 'midnight tomorrow'?

[MIKE770]

midnight 12o!clock PM 00.01 is a.m. or is it "Zulu" time??? what a waste of thread and real time posters time.

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midnight 12o!clock PM 00.01 is a.m. or is it "Zulu" time??? what a waste of thread and real time posters time.

I'm sorry you fail to see the legal importance in establishing when 'midnight' is. The point of this group is to ask questions, that's all I've done. If you don't like the thread [and bizarrely have wasted more of your precious time typing your comment than you did reading the thread] then feel free to jog on by.

I'd wager that others may disagree with you...and hey that's t'internet for you!!

[des8]

So post 4 by atticus explains that if today is Wednesday and payment is due by midnight tomorrow, then payment is due by Thursday midnight meaning you have the 24 hours of Thursday in which to pay.i.e. midnight is the end of the day

The SC decision actually clarifies certain older court decisions on this point.
The case revolved round whether or not the expiry of the limitation period was at midnight at the end of a Thursday or whether the following Friday counted in the calculation of the limitation period. The judges decided the Friday did not count, so midnight is the end of the named day.

In debating such questions do lawyers make their living

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So the answer lies in the SC ruling referenced in post 13

I've reread it and in that context its the start of a particular day.

lol...just seen you post and i got it completely wrong!!!

[atticus]

Lol....and how do you interpret 'midnight tomorrow' in light of your post #13??

I ask as i can't make sense of it...

Its simples....Today is Wednesday, sign says 'Pay by midnight tomorrow' when is 'midnight tomorrow'?

at the end of 'tomorrow'.

[atticus]

The question in that case was when the limiation period expires, if the cause of actionarises at midnight at the end of a particular day: see paragraphs 1 and 2 of the judgment. Beyond that, 'midnight' plays no part in the decision.

[Celestine]

May I just point out that this forum primarily exists to help people with real legal problems that could cause them great hardship. Much as we all enjoy an occasional legal debate, the tone of the OP is skirting very close to annoying me and being hostile to people trying their best to help. The OP states they have a genuine reason to be pestering us, we are not a case law library (try subscribing to LexisNexis?) so perhaps context is required, but I dislike LB being demanded to produce specific case law when the tone of the demand is hostile. Volunteers, you do a great job, please move on to more worthwhile threads.

[islandgirl]

Well said Celestine.

[paulajayne]

Its simples....Today is Wednesday, sign says 'Pay by midnight tomorrow' when is 'midnight tomorrow'?

Tomorrow is the next day - so Thursday - before midnight is anytime up to and including 23:59 hrs.

So payment required before 23:59 hrs the next day (Thursday).