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  • have been given 5 days then i have been given 5 days then i have to

    i have been given 5 days then i have to leave were i have been a security guard for nearly 2 years november and also worked 2 at the same company different site basically because a manager doesnt like me and been harassing me since he got at the stoe although the company havent really given me reason they say they will pay me while a new site is found but as they mess round with my holiday pay and bank holiday pay i dont trust them do they have to pay me the same as i have been workimg till a new permanent site is found help v much appreciated .
    is it a bit different as i only work as a contractor in the store
    Last edited by halsaps; 1st September 2015, 10:08:AM. Reason: grammar
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    just got the letter and they say it is for under performance this is when I have reduced stockloss to £15,000 under budget got a certificate from them for this and £151,000 better than last year urgent help the meeting is at 1.00 today what do i say please help

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      Originally posted by halsaps View Post
      just got the letter and they say it is for under performance this is when I have reduced stockloss to £15,000 under budget got a certificate from them for this and £151,000 better than last year urgent help the meeting is at 1.00 today what do i say please help
      I'm sorry you didn't get a reply earlier but there wasn't much time to respond before the time of your meeting.

      Would you care to update us on the meeting?

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        hi they had got the day wrong on the letter i thought it would have been yesterday as i was in they got the day wrong and made it for today my day off they didnt even check my rota so i told them i would come in today but if it was on overtime so i told them i was in friday and we set it for 1.00pm fri it is i can have a represenative but i am not in aunion and don't know any one else in the compass group who could be of any help. thanks for replying.

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          You don't need a union rep you can take a colleague with you in to the meeting!
          Please note that this advice is given informally, without liability and without prejudice. Always seek the advice of an insured qualified professional. All my legal and nonlegal knowledge comes from either here (LB),my own personal research and experience and/or as the result of necessity as an Employer and Businessman.

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          I AM SO GOING TO GET BANNED BY CEL FOR POSTING terrible humour POSTS.

          The Governess; 6th March 2012 GRRRRRR

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            yes that is what ithought i may ask one of lads from the diy chain where i am there security guard as he is clued up and has a cousin who is a barrister but i am the only one from my company as i am there only guard and my area manager will be there. i hope that is ok. thanks for replying
            Last edited by halsaps; 3rd September 2015, 15:13:PM. Reason: spelling

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              hi got the reason for it all completely false say misconduct and mistrustfull actions completely unsubstantiated no eveidence given it made me go cold i felt sick when my area manager said it. All the staff are shocked and can' belive i am going the deputy manager has said anything tome since the meeting but what rights di have as i am a contractor i don't work for the chain i work for vsg

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                my company are moving me next week to place don't really want to work i might have to do some nights.
                I was going to have to travel to Clacton 60 miles a day i am not doing it. Ihave emailed him to tell him this evening.

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                  To be honest i think you would be better off out of their given the issues you have had with the store manager in other threads. Though if they expect you to travel sixty miles i would be asking them to pay towards your travel expenses, until they can find you a more suitable location closer to where you live!
                  Please note that this advice is given informally, without liability and without prejudice. Always seek the advice of an insured qualified professional. All my legal and nonlegal knowledge comes from either here (LB),my own personal research and experience and/or as the result of necessity as an Employer and Businessman.

                  By using my advice in any form, you agreed to waive all rights to hold myself or any persons representing myself of any liability.

                  If you PM me, make sure to include a link to your thread as I don't give out advice in private. All PMs that are sent in missuse (including but not limited to phishing, spam) of the PM application and/or PMs that are threatening or abusive will be reported to the Site Team and if necessary to the police and/or relevant Authority.

                  I AM SO GOING TO GET BANNED BY CEL FOR POSTING terrible humour POSTS.

                  The Governess; 6th March 2012 GRRRRRR

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                    yes i am thanks for replying do i have any legal rights against what he said given he had proof against what he said he didnt back any of it up when i worked i just used to forget about him he seemed to be after all of the workers under him trying to catch every one out a number of the fellow workers said they would speak up for me i cant believe they think they can act like that. is it slanderous what he did to get me out.

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                      Was this meeting a disciplinary or an investigation, maybe you have mentioned it but I can't see. You have no right to be accompanied to investigation meetings but you do to discplinary

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                        hi thanks for replying it was called removal from site meeting. disgusting i haven't done anyfthing wrong the managers there arehorrible to there staff there completely over step what they can do he has got rid of at least 12 staff since august last year when he came..

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                          If I am correct then , you do not actually work for the company who own the site, you work for a contractor is that correct?

                          If your employer says they will pay you until a new site is found from what I can see you have neither been disciplined or even investigated over anything you have just fallen foul of a personality clash.

                          If the assumptions I have made above are correct and they do keep paying you I do not think you have much you can legally complain about although I can understand your hurt feelings

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                            yes you are right i cant believe people would do this to get somewhere higher up in life

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                              Originally posted by halsaps View Post
                              yes i am thanks for replying do i have any legal rights against what he said given he had proof against what he said he didnt back any of it up when i worked i just used to forget about him he seemed to be after all of the workers under him trying to catch every one out a number of the fellow workers said they would speak up for me i cant believe they think they can act like that. is it slanderous what he did to get me out.
                              YOu can certainly ask to see any evidence and especially as hes made the accusation to your employer (3rd party), meaning if the accusation is false you could sue for slander against the managers employers - But question is what did he accuse you off? Having others speak up for you would help in any legal proceedings too. But then even if you went down that route, whilst it would clear your name, it wouldn't change the fact you can no longer work at that site.

                              Originally posted by Berniethebolt View Post
                              Was this meeting a disciplinary or an investigation, maybe you have mentioned it but I can't see. You have no right to be accompanied to investigation meetings but you do to discplinary
                              An investigatory meeting forms part of the formal disciplinary process, therefore, yes your entitled to be accompanied. But meeting in question wasn't disciplinary, though you can still be accompanied by a colleague or union rep.

                              Originally posted by halsaps View Post
                              hi thanks for replying it was called removal from site meeting. disgusting i haven't done anyfthing wrong the managers there arehorrible to there staff there completely over step what they can do he has got rid of at least 12 staff since august last year when he came..
                              If hes that bad then your best of out of there anyway, especially since hes tried causing you problems before, and would likely try and find another way to have got rid of you if he'd failed this time round!

                              Originally posted by Berniethebolt View Post
                              If I am correct then , you do not actually work for the company who own the site, you work for a contractor is that correct?

                              If your employer says they will pay you until a new site is found from what I can see you have neither been disciplined or even investigated over anything you have just fallen foul of a personality clash.

                              If the assumptions I have made above are correct and they do keep paying you I do not think you have much you can legally complain about although I can understand your hurt feelings
                              You are correct, but then a lot depends on contract of employment, i.e if the site was named as place of work, they would need to change said term, which can only be done via notice of variation of terms, which most be agreed to by the OP. But it think in this case, the OP is best off agreeing to such and not working on that site with the manager in question given current and previous issues with said manager.
                              Please note that this advice is given informally, without liability and without prejudice. Always seek the advice of an insured qualified professional. All my legal and nonlegal knowledge comes from either here (LB),my own personal research and experience and/or as the result of necessity as an Employer and Businessman.

                              By using my advice in any form, you agreed to waive all rights to hold myself or any persons representing myself of any liability.

                              If you PM me, make sure to include a link to your thread as I don't give out advice in private. All PMs that are sent in missuse (including but not limited to phishing, spam) of the PM application and/or PMs that are threatening or abusive will be reported to the Site Team and if necessary to the police and/or relevant Authority.

                              I AM SO GOING TO GET BANNED BY CEL FOR POSTING terrible humour POSTS.

                              The Governess; 6th March 2012 GRRRRRR

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