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  • Need help regarding a old debt , Mortimer Clarke Solicitors.

    Hi all,

    I recently Received a email from mortime clarke solicitors regarding a very old credit card debt , that I took out a very very long time ago.
    I wrote to them as i was sure the debt was statue barred and asked them to cease all contact as the debt is statute barred and reply to me within 21 days confirming this.

    They replied now with the following

    Thank you for your recent email dated 13/03/2024. You have alleged that the debt is statute barred. Section 5 of the Limitation Act 1980 provides that an action founded on simple contract shall not be brought after the expiration of six years from the date on which the cause of action accrued. However section 29(5) of the Limitation Act 1980 states: “…Where any right of action has accrued to recover…any debt or other liquidated pecuniary claim…and the person liable or accountable for the claim acknowledges the claim or makes any payment in respect of it the right shall be treated as having accrued on and not before the date of the acknowledgment or payment.” We have been instructed by our client that the last payment, towards this debt on 23/04/2018.

    As such, our client’s position is that 6 years have not yet passed and so the matter is not statute barred and our client is entitled to enforce the debt. If you disagree please set out the precise legal basis giving the date on which you believe the debt became statute barred. Alternatively, please complete the enclosed Income and Expenditure form. We are instructed that in this case the cause of action accrued when the agreement was terminated on 24/10/2018. As such, our client’s position is that 6 years have not yet passed and so the matter is not statute barred and our client is entitled to enforce the debt. If you disagree please set out the precise legal basis giving the date on which you believe the debt became statute barred. Our client requires the balance to be addressed. Please find enclosed an income and expenditure form for you to complete and return. Please respond within 14 days

    So I'm very confused , Does the mean the debt is statue barred in 9 days from now?
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    Hi DayJax

    Welcome to LB

    Try not to worry.

    When they say 'cause of action', they mean the account wasn't defaulted until 24/10/18. So the 6 years would be from that point.

    Even if it was the last payment date, 23/04/18, it still wouldn't be statute barred.

    When was the account opened?

    What you need to do is see what documentation they hold, is the documentation compliant? Does it have the prescribed terms?

    Do they have a compliant default notice? etc. Do they have a compliant letter of assignment? etc.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Dayjax7 View Post
      Hi all,

      I recently Received a email from mortime clarke solicitors regarding a very old credit card debt , that I took out a very very long time ago.
      I wrote to them as i was sure the debt was statue barred and asked them to cease all contact as the debt is statute barred and reply to me within 21 days confirming this.

      They replied now with the following

      Thank you for your recent email dated 13/03/2024. You have alleged that the debt is statute barred. Section 5 of the Limitation Act 1980 provides that an action founded on simple contract shall not be brought after the expiration of six years from the date on which the cause of action accrued. However section 29(5) of the Limitation Act 1980 states: “…Where any right of action has accrued to recover…any debt or other liquidated pecuniary claim…and the person liable or accountable for the claim acknowledges the claim or makes any payment in respect of it the right shall be treated as having accrued on and not before the date of the acknowledgment or payment.” We have been instructed by our client that the last payment, towards this debt on 23/04/2018.

      As such, our client’s position is that 6 years have not yet passed and so the matter is not statute barred and our client is entitled to enforce the debt. If you disagree please set out the precise legal basis giving the date on which you believe the debt became statute barred. Alternatively, please complete the enclosed Income and Expenditure form. We are instructed that in this case the cause of action accrued when the agreement was terminated on 24/10/2018. As such, our client’s position is that 6 years have not yet passed and so the matter is not statute barred and our client is entitled to enforce the debt. If you disagree please set out the precise legal basis giving the date on which you believe the debt became statute barred. Our client requires the balance to be addressed. Please find enclosed an income and expenditure form for you to complete and return. Please respond within 14 days

      So I'm very confused , Does the mean the debt is statue barred in 9 days from now?
      Thank you for the welcome , the account was opened from the email i have around the start of 2016.

      How would I word this in a email? to ask for this information , thanks for the reply.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by echat11 View Post
        Hi DayJax

        Welcome to LB

        Try not to worry.

        When they say 'cause of action', they mean the account wasn't defaulted until 24/10/18. So the 6 years would be from that point.

        Even if it was the last payment date, 23/04/18, it still wouldn't be statute barred.

        When was the account opened?

        What you need to do is see what documentation they hold, is the documentation compliant? Does it have the prescribed terms?

        Do they have a compliant default notice? etc. Do they have a compliant letter of assignment? etc.
        Thank you for the welcome , the account was opened from the email i have around the start of 2016.

        How would I word this in a email? to ask for this information , thanks for the reply.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Dayjax7 View Post

          Thank you for the welcome , the account was opened from the email i have around the start of 2016.

          How would I word this in a email? to ask for this information , thanks for the reply.
          Make sure you get Proof of Postage.

          https://legalbeagles.info/library/gu...etter-example/

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          • #6
            Originally posted by echat11 View Post

            Make sure you get Proof of Postage.

            https://legalbeagles.info/library/gu...etter-example/
            Thank you very much , do i send this to the solicitors that are acting on behalf of cabot financial or the company , sorry for all the questions.

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            • #7
              Cabot Financial own the debt, so send it to them, but you can copy Mortimer Clark in on the letter, just in case they don't communicate with each other.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Dayjax7 View Post

                Thank you very much , do i send this to the solicitors that are acting on behalf of cabot financial or the company , sorry for all the questions.
                Ill get it sent off , and update this with any replies.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by echat11 View Post
                  Cabot Financial own the debt, so send it to them, but you can copy Mortimer Clark in on the letter, just in case they don't communicate with each other.
                  So I've now sent of the letter , what exatcly am I looking for on the reply? Just so im aware , thank you.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Dayjax7 View Post

                    So I've now sent of the letter , what exatcly am I looking for on the reply? Just so im aware , thank you.
                    You'll be checking that the information that should be on the agreement, is on the agreement.

                    https://lawzone.legal/when-is-a-cred...unenforceable/

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                    • #11
                      Does their assertion that you last made a payment on 23 April 2018 sound correct to you? Do you have access to old bank statements that would you could check to see if you did make the payment? Depends which bank you are with and whether you have changed banks, but I know that on my online bank I can go back through the last 7 years of statements.
                      All opinions expressed are based on my personal experience. I am not a lawyer and do not hold any legal qualifications.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by PallasAthena View Post
                        Does their assertion that you last made a payment on 23 April 2018 sound correct to you? Do you have access to old bank statements that would you could check to see if you did make the payment? Depends which bank you are with and whether you have changed banks, but I know that on my online bank I can go back through the last 7 years of statements.
                        Possibly , it was a long time , and I think i started making payments , but even paying of £50 a time the debt just never went down with interest. And then its just something I forgot about.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by echat11 View Post

                          You'll be checking that the information that should be on the agreement, is on the agreement.

                          https://lawzone.legal/when-is-a-cred...unenforceable/
                          Thanks , All though I'm very un-educated in this field , so I'll wait for a reply , read the agreement over it than post it here.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Dayjax7 View Post

                            Possibly , it was a long time , and I think i started making payments , but even paying of £50 a time the debt just never went down with interest. And then its just something I forgot about.
                            Send them a Subject Access Request, they will provide all the data they hold on the account, they have 30 days, a least 6 years might be more.

                            https://legalbeagles.info/library/gu...ccess-request/

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                            • #15
                              Hi , they got me back to me saying
                              https://gyazo.com/69679393f645ecff1c37629d94cf6379

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