Hi,
Thank you for taking the time to look at my post, and apologies if it is in the wrong place. I also did search the forums to see if similar situations/questions had been asked previously, but didnt find any similar threads. Therefore, I was hoping this may become a useful topic as Im sure many experience similar problems.
The background is I purchased a new build property from a regional (West Yorkshire) luxury house builder in August 2017, and even on the home tour it was apparent there were a large number of snags and defects. I consequently paid a professional snagging company (at a cost of 440) to inspect my property and within a week of legal completion theyd identified c.250 snags. Over the next 18 months more defects were identified - some as the original issues were fixed, and others through the passage of time (e.g. following the first winter it was identified that two walls had not been insulated). These issues have only been fixed because the warranty company (LABC) has pushed the builder into doing them; and I suspect has cost the builder a lot of the profit they made on the sale.
However, certain issues, principally over the roof and brickwork, the developer has repeatedly confirmed were not issues and theyd had their best roofer and bricklayer look at my house, and as they have stated in multiple emails there are no issues and as I am a layman, I dont know what Im talking about (not totally unfair). I therefore engaged a RICS surveyor and structural engineer in July 2019 to inspect my property (at a cost of 1,350), and he confirmed in a professional report that there are a number of issues with the roof and brickwork, as well as a number of other instances of poor workmanship to the propertys construction (and certainly not representative of a luxury developer). The cost of the remedial works was estimated between 7,500 to 12,500. I shared the report with the builder and warranty company, with the latter confirming the issues meet the definition of a defect and fall below the requirements set out in their technical manual.
The developer subsequently did nothing, so I wrote them a Final Letter Before Claim in early August 2019 asking them to rectify these issues within the report and my open claims with the warranty company before the end of the 2 year warranty period, or else I would start court proceedings. The developer did not respond to final letter, and so I went and obtained quotes for the remedial works, which took longer than expected, but came out at c. 6,500. I therefore added the costs of the professional reports (c.2,000) and raised a Money Claim Online at the start of October for breach of contract for c. 8,500 meaning I had to pay a fee of 410 and took my total claim to c.9,000. I sent detailed particulars of the claim separately, which listed the defects, when they had first been reported to the builder, where they were listed in the RICS report and which claim number with the warranty company they were contained within.
The developer passed the claim to their legal firm (a very large firm), who filed an Acknowledgement of Service giving them an extra 14 days stating they intended to defend the case.
The legal firm then wrote to me asking for an extension until the end of November as they needed to engage their own expert to inspect my property (and if I didnt agree theyd apply to the court for it, and I may be liable for costs). I said this was fine, and my research and understanding from the CPR is that going to court should be the last resort. I did ask the legal firm to confirm the time and who be attending, and what benefit this will bring (i.e. their experts credentials) since their client already has the information to defend this case - they have not yet responded to those questions, but the partner did email to say he was keen to speak but has not yet called despite agreeing to call by the end of last week.
Then on Friday, the legal firm emailed asking for another extension until early December which is the maximum extension (28 days) that can be agreed between the parties for the legal firm to file a defence, as they are concerned they will not have enough time to file a defence between the receipt of their experts report and the deadline theyd originally asked for - despite the legal firm proposing the experts visit to my property in the original extension request. Their email contained much stronger wording that if I did not agree to this extension they would obtain a costs order against me for the going to court for the extra 5 days they now need. I agreed to the extension since it is following what is set out in the CPR, and just ignored the comments on the costs.
I think I have followed the required necessary / appropriate steps, but given I am a Litigant in Person, I have to acknowledge the legal firm know the law much better than I do, and I think they are trying to setup traps (I guess their attempts to spook me are working?) since I believe I have a relatively strong case.
My questions therefore are:
1. Are there any pitfalls I am walking into by allowing their expert to visit my property before their defence needs to be filed?
(My original thinking was no, and I dont want to appear obstructive to a judge, and if they get a reputable firm then it should only highlight the same issues (e.g. collapsed / broken tiles, missing flashing / pointing), but given experts are usually appointed later it seems a little odd to be using one now?)
2. As we have not yet had the Directions Questionnaire, I appreciate the claim has not yet being allocated to a track. I understand the court will allocate the claim mainly based on the monetary value, unless it is complex (I dont believe it is), and I would tick Yes to saying it is appropriate for small claims when I get the questionnaire, however, could the legal firm try and do something clever here e.g. by ticking No pushing it into a fast track process?
3. Equally, following on from (2) is there anything I can do, to strengthen the case of the claim being allocated to the Small Claims Track?
4. Would there be any benefit to seeing if I could get the case reported in the papers - the Yorkshire Post and Guardian have both covered the developer already this year, so another story is presumably not going to be helpful; or tactically is it better to keep this up my sleeve?
5. At the end of the day, I do need to get these issues fixed, so I am best just pulling the trigger on the tradesmen I have got quotes from (the roof needs to be first and sadly this is the most expensive job at 3,000), or will I be open to challenge that the developer could naturally have done these works for less?
Thank you, and if you need anything else to answer the questions please let me know.
Also, sorry this was a long post...this is what happens when a risk averse person does something with risk !
Thank you for taking the time to look at my post, and apologies if it is in the wrong place. I also did search the forums to see if similar situations/questions had been asked previously, but didnt find any similar threads. Therefore, I was hoping this may become a useful topic as Im sure many experience similar problems.
The background is I purchased a new build property from a regional (West Yorkshire) luxury house builder in August 2017, and even on the home tour it was apparent there were a large number of snags and defects. I consequently paid a professional snagging company (at a cost of 440) to inspect my property and within a week of legal completion theyd identified c.250 snags. Over the next 18 months more defects were identified - some as the original issues were fixed, and others through the passage of time (e.g. following the first winter it was identified that two walls had not been insulated). These issues have only been fixed because the warranty company (LABC) has pushed the builder into doing them; and I suspect has cost the builder a lot of the profit they made on the sale.
However, certain issues, principally over the roof and brickwork, the developer has repeatedly confirmed were not issues and theyd had their best roofer and bricklayer look at my house, and as they have stated in multiple emails there are no issues and as I am a layman, I dont know what Im talking about (not totally unfair). I therefore engaged a RICS surveyor and structural engineer in July 2019 to inspect my property (at a cost of 1,350), and he confirmed in a professional report that there are a number of issues with the roof and brickwork, as well as a number of other instances of poor workmanship to the propertys construction (and certainly not representative of a luxury developer). The cost of the remedial works was estimated between 7,500 to 12,500. I shared the report with the builder and warranty company, with the latter confirming the issues meet the definition of a defect and fall below the requirements set out in their technical manual.
The developer subsequently did nothing, so I wrote them a Final Letter Before Claim in early August 2019 asking them to rectify these issues within the report and my open claims with the warranty company before the end of the 2 year warranty period, or else I would start court proceedings. The developer did not respond to final letter, and so I went and obtained quotes for the remedial works, which took longer than expected, but came out at c. 6,500. I therefore added the costs of the professional reports (c.2,000) and raised a Money Claim Online at the start of October for breach of contract for c. 8,500 meaning I had to pay a fee of 410 and took my total claim to c.9,000. I sent detailed particulars of the claim separately, which listed the defects, when they had first been reported to the builder, where they were listed in the RICS report and which claim number with the warranty company they were contained within.
The developer passed the claim to their legal firm (a very large firm), who filed an Acknowledgement of Service giving them an extra 14 days stating they intended to defend the case.
The legal firm then wrote to me asking for an extension until the end of November as they needed to engage their own expert to inspect my property (and if I didnt agree theyd apply to the court for it, and I may be liable for costs). I said this was fine, and my research and understanding from the CPR is that going to court should be the last resort. I did ask the legal firm to confirm the time and who be attending, and what benefit this will bring (i.e. their experts credentials) since their client already has the information to defend this case - they have not yet responded to those questions, but the partner did email to say he was keen to speak but has not yet called despite agreeing to call by the end of last week.
Then on Friday, the legal firm emailed asking for another extension until early December which is the maximum extension (28 days) that can be agreed between the parties for the legal firm to file a defence, as they are concerned they will not have enough time to file a defence between the receipt of their experts report and the deadline theyd originally asked for - despite the legal firm proposing the experts visit to my property in the original extension request. Their email contained much stronger wording that if I did not agree to this extension they would obtain a costs order against me for the going to court for the extra 5 days they now need. I agreed to the extension since it is following what is set out in the CPR, and just ignored the comments on the costs.
I think I have followed the required necessary / appropriate steps, but given I am a Litigant in Person, I have to acknowledge the legal firm know the law much better than I do, and I think they are trying to setup traps (I guess their attempts to spook me are working?) since I believe I have a relatively strong case.
My questions therefore are:
1. Are there any pitfalls I am walking into by allowing their expert to visit my property before their defence needs to be filed?
(My original thinking was no, and I dont want to appear obstructive to a judge, and if they get a reputable firm then it should only highlight the same issues (e.g. collapsed / broken tiles, missing flashing / pointing), but given experts are usually appointed later it seems a little odd to be using one now?)
2. As we have not yet had the Directions Questionnaire, I appreciate the claim has not yet being allocated to a track. I understand the court will allocate the claim mainly based on the monetary value, unless it is complex (I dont believe it is), and I would tick Yes to saying it is appropriate for small claims when I get the questionnaire, however, could the legal firm try and do something clever here e.g. by ticking No pushing it into a fast track process?
3. Equally, following on from (2) is there anything I can do, to strengthen the case of the claim being allocated to the Small Claims Track?
4. Would there be any benefit to seeing if I could get the case reported in the papers - the Yorkshire Post and Guardian have both covered the developer already this year, so another story is presumably not going to be helpful; or tactically is it better to keep this up my sleeve?
5. At the end of the day, I do need to get these issues fixed, so I am best just pulling the trigger on the tradesmen I have got quotes from (the roof needs to be first and sadly this is the most expensive job at 3,000), or will I be open to challenge that the developer could naturally have done these works for less?
Thank you, and if you need anything else to answer the questions please let me know.
Also, sorry this was a long post...this is what happens when a risk averse person does something with risk !
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