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  • Firstplus/loanmakers FSCS

    Hi, hopefully i can explain my situation in a way thats understandable, here goes... I took a much needed loan out with Firstplus through Loanmakers in sep of 2007 for £11700.00 over 60 months, added to this was £2865.33 PPi taking the loan to £14565.33. front loaded.
    I applied by phone and can remember asking why the cover was so expensive and was told that i should basically regard it as a saving scheme as i would get my premium back at 5 year point. It covered both my wife and myself for sickness accident etc. As both my wife and I receive full pay for 6 months in the event of sickness I queried whether i needed it at all, again was told i would get money back and although not nesscessary it would help with the application, All good, went ahead with the loan. I hold my hands up and admit i never read through the policy meticulously as i should have, because after 30 days i was well and truly locked in. I also discovered in the obscure policy txt that only i was covered for sickness and accident and not the both of us as was told. After 8 months I was in a position to settle the loan, which i did, only then did i realise that although i could get no money back, the policy would be cancelled after being led to believe it would carry on during the initial phone conversation. so basically i paid £2865 plus instalments of £57.38 a month for 8 months cover. Not happy, but nothing i could do, until the PPI bubble burst. So beginning this year i filed a claim through a claim management company to firstplus. after months of waiting was told its nothing to do with them as Loanmakers dealt with application and they no longer exist, i should go through FSCS. Claim management company wasted another couple of months with my claim but eventually i filled in the forms and sent them off. I still have all the original paperwork regarding this loan.
    I received a few days a reply from FSCS saying that with the information rcd they don't believe the policy was missold. As we had signed the agreement and ticked the ppi box and all the details were listed in the policy, i can understand anyone coming to that conclusion, but what about what was said on the phone at the point of sale? don't FSCS take verbal evidence in to consideration? the claims management company filed my claim under it not being suitable and that i wasnt told it was optional etc. what do i do now? end of road? should i write to FSCS and explain what i was told? any help would be greatly appreciated. sorry for the long winded post.
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    Re: Firstplus/loanmakers FSCS

    Hi there

    Firstly, shame you didnt find out about this site and others alike that could have helped you all for nothing, where a CMC will charge on success.
    However, have you tried requesting for the tape recording of the telephone conversation from the brokers Loan makers? This may be a big help for you.
    You could try asking for this even if they are no longer active - the date dept may still be running.
    You can ask for this by sending a Subject Access Request (SAR) letter that will cost £10 cheque or postal order and they should send you all information held on the account including recordings.

    You could give it a go and ask without the SAR they may still provide this free of charge.

    Just wondered as well if the FSCS have given you the opportunity to give further information?

    The fact as well that it was one of those "Single Costly Policies" they should have also taken that into consideration, because they are frowned upon.

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    • #3
      Re: Firstplus/loanmakers FSCS

      Hi,
      all they have said is that if i disagree with their decision i can get in touch to talk about it. as far as sending a SAR to loanmakers, i am not sure where to send it to as they no longer exist. yes it was a very costly policy and one i wouldn't touch with a barge pole now am more informed. hindsight eh?
      i will see if can get this SAR thing on the go. thanks

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      • #4
        Re: Firstplus/loanmakers FSCS

        You could request a SAR from broker or lender, usually the broker once the application is completed - the information of your application are forwarded on to them. So yes the usual way would be to complain to the broker, in your case loanmakers, and the bank that taken your monthly repayments would have been your lender FP.

        Do you have the telephone details of first plus (in case their data dept) still runs? You could give them a call and ask for details on where to request for your SAR, they should be able to confirm on the telephone. (Hopefully).

        Anyway, if all this fails another avenue would be to contact the underwriter/insurer of the policy, some of us have been successful in going this avenue, and its the direction the FOS would normally suggest if there is no other way to make the reclaim, as its possible the underwriter/insurer were FSA regulated.

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        • #5
          Re: Firstplus/loanmakers FSCS

          I have just sent the SAR to firstplus, will await their reply and go from there. if i dont get the info i need, can i still go to the FOS even if the FSCS has rejected my claim?

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          • #6
            Re: Firstplus/loanmakers FSCS

            I have just rcd all the info on my loan, quite a few pages!!. going to sift through and hopefully find something i can use. there doesnt seem to be much on phone conversations though surprise surprise, will post when done.

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            • #7
              Re: Firstplus/loanmakers FSCS

              I have just rcd all the info on my loan, quite a few pages!!. going to sift through and hopefully find something i can use. there doesnt seem to be much on phone conversations though surprise surprise, will post when done. however, it seems to me that when the FSCS reject your claim thats the end of it as there are no other avenues.

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              • #8
                Re: Firstplus/loanmakers FSCS

                You can try the underwriting business, you will have to try finding out who they were.

                It may not be easy, but some have eventually succeeded going the underwriter/insurer avenue, I am one of them, as soon as you know let me know.

                The lender MUST let you know who they were. (Or you may have details of these on your paperwork).

                For example, if you were to make a claim for sickness/unemployment that should be the business we want to pursue once you exhausted the other avenues.

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