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Banks consider taking FSA to court about PPI

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    Britain's biggest banks are moving towards a decision to mount a legal challenge to the City regulator over rules relating to controversial payment protection insurance (PPI) policies, I have learned.
    The country's biggest banks, including Barclays, HSBC, Lloyds Banking Group and Royal Bank of Scotland (RBS) have been holding secret discussions through the British Bankers' Association (BBA) in recent days.
    Further talks may take place on the issue tomorrow and the banks intend to decide whether to seek a judicial review of the Financial Services Authority's (FSA's) revised PPI regime within the next fortnight, I am told.
    While there has been no formal decision to proceed, people close to the situation said it was "more likely than not" that the banks would mount a legal challenge to the FSA unless any last-ditch mediation efforts were successful.
    A challenge could come as early as next week through a 'pre-action' notice that would be served on the FSA and seek to force all pending PPI complaints to be put on hold.
    The banks' objection to the new regime appears to focus on what they regard as the potentially retrospective application of new rules relating to PPI.
    They fear the measures could cost them significant sums in compensation in relation to PPI but they are also concerned that a letter sent by the FSA last December would allow the regulator to retrospectively apply new rules to other products and to regulated firms outside the banking sector..
    PPI is supposed to give policy-holders peace of mind by covering repayments on financial products if a borrower is unable to make them due to accident, sickness, unemployment or death. More than 90 per cent of PPI policies sold in Britain takes place alongside unsecured or secured personal loans, credit card and mortgages.
    However, the practice has become so dogged by controversy that many banks have scaled back the sale of PPI policies. In July, Lloyds said it would stop selling PPI on credit cards, loans and mortgages and other banks have made similar moves.
    If the banks elect to press ahead with a decision to pursue a judicial review, it would signify a hardening of their stance towards the City regulator.
    Last month, the FSA issued a policy document outlining its new regime. Here's an excerpt from its statement at the time:
    "The package will ensure customers are treated more fairly when complaining about PPI and better when buying the product; it includes: new handbook guidance to ensure complaints are handled properly, and redressed fairly where appropriate; an explanation of when and why firms should analyse their past complaints to identify if there are serious flaws in sales practices that may have affected complainants and even non-complainants; and an open letter setting out common sales failings to help firms identify bad practice.
    "Firms must implement the measures by 1st December 2010, with the time in between to prepare for implementation such as training staff to a higher level. The FSA will be monitoring firms closely to ensure the new standards are adhered to."

    There are some other points worth making about the issue: firstly, that the banks may still decide not to go to court; secondly, if they do, it will be an important test for the City regulator at a time when it is preparing to be broken up; thirdly, that it is a potentially awkward situation for Lloyds and RBS given that the taxpayer is a big shareholder in the two banks; and lastly, that the banks will need to be wary of the public relations challenge they face in addressing an issue where millions of customers have been left nursing grievances.
    The BBA, the FSA and the major banks all declined to comment.
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    Last edited by Angry Cat; 13th September 2010, 08:23:AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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    Re: Banks consider taking FSA to court about PPI

    Other thread on this story (which is just hearsay at the moment as nothings confirmed)

    Banks considering judicial review of FSA over PPI - Legal Beagles Consumer Forum
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      Re: Banks consider taking FSA to court about PPI

      Ah yes, Amethyst!

      I only posted up the article as it was in the sunday times this weekend.

      Retrospective, is the probable contention...£2.7 billion.

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      • #4
        Re: Banks consider taking FSA to court about PPI

        oh my heart bleeds "they fear the messure could cost them significant sums in compensation" should of thought of that before you ripped of many consumers who were poorly advsed about time the banking industry learnt that staff training comes before profits
        If you think nobody cares if you're alive, try missing a couple of payments.

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          Re: Banks consider taking FSA to court about PPI

          Pity, that many of them did not observe the ABI and GISC codes on selling general insurance!!!
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          ...a potentially awkward situation for Lloyds and RBS given that the taxpayer is a big shareholder in the two banks; and lastly, that the banks will need to be wary of the public relations challenge they face in addressing an issue where millions of customers have been left nursing grievances[Emphasis Added]

          Incidentally, they will have to overcome the hurdles that they will face re: faulty product legislation.
          Last edited by Angry Cat; 13th September 2010, 12:15:PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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            Re: Banks consider taking FSA to court about PPI

            sadly it is where many complaints originate from the lack of employee training and also poorly drafted documents the sad point is they have known this for ages and still not taken steps to correct it had they had done the amount of complalnts with the fos and courts would have halfed
            If you think nobody cares if you're alive, try missing a couple of payments.

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            • #7
              Re: Banks consider taking FSA to court about PPI

              PPI sales have been/are extraordinarily profitable for the banks and;
              a good source of commission in a commission fueled industry...

              The day of reckoning cometh!

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              • #8
                Re: Banks consider taking FSA to court about PPI

                Originally posted by Angry Cat View Post
                PPI sales have been/are extraordinarily profitable for the banks and;
                a good source of commission in a commission fueled industry...
                For the bank YES for the bankworker NO(with regards to them getting any commission from PPI sales)
                The day of reckoning cometh!
                Just for a minor clarification. On the first part of what you said, re profitability of PPI, 100% agree with you.
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                • #9
                  Re: Banks consider taking FSA to court about PPI

                  I have to agree that this has been one of the biggest rip-offs in history but would not suprise me if the banks wriggled out of it somehow as they manged to with unfair bank charges.
                  Last edited by Curlyben; 28th September 2010, 19:03:PM. Reason: add content

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                    Re: Banks consider taking FSA to court about PPI

                    anything new on this?

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