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    Claims management companiesInvestigation: claim companies exposed

    Our investigation


    Since May 2007, CMCs have been regulated by the Ministry of Justice (MOJ), which can be contacted online or on 0845 450 6858.
    It recently shut down 100 of them as part of a crackdown on firms that were misleading the public.

    We used the MOJ rules to check whether firms were acting fairly and reasonably, ensuring that information wasn’t misleading and advising clients of the ombudsman scheme.

    In August 2009, we made 68 calls posing as potential customers – 38 about PPI and 30 about bank charges. To pass our benchmark, companies had to:
    • tell our undercover researcher that they could pursue the claim themselves and not suggest that they would have a more favourable outcome if they opted to use the CMC;
    • be clear and honest about success rates;
    • be clear about how they charged fees;
    • be clear about who the company was regulated by.

    What we found

    PPI

    Of the 38 companies we spoke to about PPI claims, only 10 offered good advice overall.

    Of the remaining 28, 12 offered particularly poor advice by claiming to our undercover researchers that they’d be better off with them rather than pursuing their claims independently through the FOS.

    One said that it would cost £250 – but the FOS service is free. Another said that a solicitor would be required – but this isn’t necessarily the case, and claiming so contravenes MOJ regulations.

    Of the overall 28, sixteen of the CMCs claimed to have success rates of more than 90% – with little or no evidence.

    Five companies couldn’t say how they were regulated – one claimed to be regulated by the Department of Constitutional Affairs, which no longer exists. Another sent out literature with the MOJ logo, which breaks its rules.

    Five CMCs charged upfront fees of between £40 and £100 – but there can be no guarantee of success and the firm could go out of business.

    One firm claimed that its 25% fee (if successful) included getting 8% extra in interest, so it really only charged 17%. We say that this was misleading as the 8% should be claimed back anyway.

    We also found four examples of researchers being encouraged to get their entire loan written off even though they’d enquired only about its insurance policy. One firm in particular strongly encouraged our undercover researcher to do this after suggesting it was highly likely that their PPI had been mis-sold.

    Bank charges

    When it came to claiming back bank charges, more than two-thirds of companies called gave good advice.

    Almost all immediately mentioned the ongoing court case that is delaying potential payments, and most were honest about how this impacted chances of success.

    However, some still made unsubstantiated claims such as: ‘You’ll definitely get your money back.’ And, when our researchers asked whether they could reclaim the bank charges themselves, the responses were worse.

    Nine of the 30 firms said that we would be fobbed off or offered less than we were entitled to.

    One said that, unlike the company, we would have to wait until next year to claim while the court case continues. Another failed to mention the case and claimed that a bank charge of £30 paid six years ago, would result in a £250
    payment back today. This is untrue.

    Kevin Rousell, head of claims management for the MOJ, said: ‘We’ll be investigating the companies that Which? has reported to us.

    ‘Consumers must be given clear information about the options for pursuing a claim, the realistic chances of success and any costs of doing so – win or lose.

    ‘Recent steps that we’ve taken to suspend or cancel the licences of a number of companies for failure to abide by the rules make clear that, if consumers aren’t treated fairly, there will be severe consequences.’
    Which? says

    While the MOJ has taken action against some of the worst offending CMCs, our investigation shows that there are still too many firms breaching regulations.
    We’re particularly concerned that companies are discouraging consumers from pursuing claims themselves through the ombudsman – so it’s down to you to prove them wrong.
    And when it comes to bank charges and PPI avoid paying 25% or more commission by taking action yourself (see below) and claiming what’s rightfully yours.
    #staysafestayhome

    Any support I provide is offered without liability, if you are unsure please seek professional legal guidance.

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  • #2
    Re: Investigation: claim companies exposed

    Pretty damming eh !!!

    Just out of interest

    A charge of £30 paid out 6 years ago with compound interest applied at an annual rate of 28% would pay back £161.11 ( including the £30 charge).

    At statutory rate of 8% simple the payback would be £44.41 ( inc the £30 charge)

    To achieve a payback of £250 in total would mean applying a compound interest rate of 37.5%.

    Beggars belief really !

    Budgie

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    • #3
      Re: Investigation: claim companies exposed

      Hi, I have noticed many people express that as the financial ombudsman is mainly paid for by contributions from the Banks ( not sure if this is true ) and that it is not the best route to take to pursue a complaint / compensation from the Banks.

      However about six years ago I had a serious case again xxxxxxx Bank whom I had banked with for about 14 years. Due to my long standing relationship with them I thought they would try to resolve matters( for which they were clearly at fault) amicably.

      I was younger and much more Naive and obviously this was not the case .In the process of taking my complaint to xxxxxxx Bank direct going further and further up the corporate chain they played every trick in the book and nearly bankrupted me.

      As a consequence I had neither the funds or health to sue them.

      Eventually I took my case to the Financial Ombudsman. I cannot deny that I feel to some extent they really put me through the hoops.However, I found as long as you provide them with correct and full details as best you can, and respond to any further queries / questions in a timely order as best you can, sooner or later if you have been wronged within the Law, Banking rules and regulations etc the Ombudsman will have to/ are bound legally to resolve matters.

      In my instance they found the bank fully accountable (even though I feel they didn't want to or were under some kind of pressure to just make me go away). Although it took tears and they could not compensate me anywhere near what I lost. In winning my case alot of wrongs were put right, I had the last laugh & some retribution against xxxxxx Bank, and the money I was compensated gave me new opportunies in life and a lighter spring in my step.( at the time )

      So I agree with Amythyst we are all perfectly capable ( with the help of others if needed) to take our complaints / cases direct to the Ombudsman for free.

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