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    I am going to have a fiddle with the POC etc, and get a proper guide up for those north of the border.

    So dont use any of this yet :okay:

    Step by Step Guide for Residents of Scotland

    Note: Most people claim back charges for the last five years in Scotland. However, there have been a number of claims that have successfully gone back further. I would recommend claiming back 6 years in your prelim and LBA letters, in case your bank decides to refund at this stage. 5 years is the limit when raising a court claim.

    1: Get your statements

    Send a Subject Access Request under the Data Protection Act 1998 to receive all information held by them about you. Make sure you specifically ask them to include a list of transactions. Bank Statements per se are not covered by the Data Protection Act, but most banks will send these out to you to comply with your request for a list of transactions. Do not forget to send a cheque for £10 to cover the fee.

    2: Add up your charges
    Use a spreadsheet (add link here) to detail all the penalty charges the bank have taken from you over the past 6 years.

    3: Write and demand that they repay those charges
    Send the Preliminary Letter from the templates library to demand the charges back. Make sure you include a copy of your list of charges.

    4: Send a Letter before Action (LBA)
    If the bank doesn’t refund your charges after the first letter, send a final letter demanding the bank repay your charges, and threatening legal action if they don’t. At this stage you should decide if you are going to take the claim through the Scottish Courts system or if you will use the Financial Ombudsman.


    Option 1) Claiming through the Scottish Court System.
    A Small Claim Action can be raised to the value of £3000. Amounts over this and up to £5000 must be raised on a Summary Cause Action.

    Option 2) Claiming through the Financial Ombudsman.
    This is suitable for any level of claim, and the Financial Ombudsman Service (FOS) handle your claim to resolution. There is no reason why the FOS will not get a full refund for you, and the timescales can be around 8 - 12 weeks from the complaint. There is a section on the FOS website with details how to proceed. (only available once waiver is removed)

    5: Take Action

    Small Claims/Summary Cause action in the Sheriff Court

    Small Claims Guidance Notes (from scotcourt.gov.uk please read before proceeding)

    Summary Cause Guidance notes (from scotcourt.gov.uk please read before proceeding)

    Costs: ( court lodging dues )
    claims up to £50 = £8.00
    Small Claim/Summary Cause = £44.00
    Service of Summary Cause summons on defender by sheriff officer = £29.00


    If you are on a low income or benefits you may be exempt from court fees. The form to claim this is here

    Risks:
    Claims below £200 - no award for expenses to either party
    Claims over £200 to £1500 - maximum expenses award £150
    Claims over £1500 and below £3000 – maximum expenses award £300
    Claims over £3000 and below £5000 – Expenses are normally calculated at the end of the case by the sheriff clerk, who then has his/her calculation approved by the sheriff.
    These may be awarded against you in the unlikely event that you lose, or if you do not comply with directions issued and your claim is struck out. It is very rare for costs to be awarded to either side in a small claims action.

    Interest
    Interest should be added to each charge using add link to spreadsheet. The total amount of charges plus interest will form your claim. This means that if your charges amount to £400, and the interest from the date of charge amounts to £100, your total claim will be for £500. The judicial interest which is refered to in the claim form is calculated from the date of service, which means from the date that the claim form is served on the bank.

    To raise a small claim two forms need to be completed, which you can get from your local court, 1A and 1B. 1B is the copy served on the Defender and both copies should be completed identically.

    Attach a copy of your schedule of charges to each form

    COMPLETING THE FORMS

    Form 1A - Download in MS WORD HERE - in PDF format HERE

    The form is here
    It is divided into sections and is quite straightforward to complete

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    1: Enter name and address of your local sheriffs court
    ( read notes about Jurisdiction here)


    2: Enter your name and address (you are the Pursuer)

    3: Enter the name and address of the bank you are suing.
    (read notes about Jurisdiction here)
    (They are the Defender)

    4: This is the value of your claim. Enter the following...
    Quote:



    The Pursuer claims from the Defender the sum of £ XXX.XX (charges) with interest on that sum at the rate annually from the date of service, together with the expenses of bringing the action.





    5: Enter - ''None'' - this is for solicitors/representatives names as your claim is in Small Claims this is not required.

    5a: Enter - '' Not Applicable'' - this is only used for submitting documents electronically

    6: Leave - this section will be completed by the Sheriff Officer

    7: Enter your particulars of Claim as follows (amend to your own claim);

    Quote:

    The Pursuer [your name], has held a bank account with the defendent since [DATE] the account number being ******. The Defender deducted from the account various amounts of money in penalty charges during the period [DATE] to [DATE]. These were in respect of 'charges as notified' (levied if a cheque, direct debit or standing order payment was returned because the specific overdraft had been exceeded) The Pursuer contends that these charges were legally unenforceable and therefore the Pursuer is demanding repayment of them. The Defender has refused full payment of these monies due. No admissions are made by the Pursuer as to the incorporation of any term into the contract between the Pursuer and the Defender purporting to entitle the Defender to levy penalty charges. If the Defender is able to establish that the contract did contain these terms, the Pursuer will will contend that these charges are unenforcable by law, being penalty charges designed to penalise the Pursuer for breach of conduct and generate profit for the defendant for the actual loss occuring to the Defender rather than being liquidated damages designed to compensate the defendant for the actual loss occurring to the Defender as a result of the breach. The Pursuer claims from the Defender a sum equivalant to the amount unlawfully debited from the Pursuers account from [DATE] to [DATE]. The sums are in the attached schedule. The contractual provisions that permit the Defender to levy such charges in unenforceable by virtue of the Unfair Terms in Consumer Contracts Regulations (1999), the Unfair Contract Terms Act (1977) and the common law. The Defender has a branch in [PLACE] therefore it is under the jurisdiction of this court. The Pursuer claims £XXX.XX as the sum unlawfully debited.






    Form 1B should be completed exactly the same.

    Download in MS WORD HERE - in PDF format HERE



    6. Take these forms to the Sheriff Courts with your fee and your schedule of charges.
    7. The court will send the summons along with the schedule of charges to the bank.

    You will be sent back form 1a with the return date and the hearing date added on to the form by the court. This may take up to 2 weeks.

    8. Contact your Court the date AFTER the RETURN DATE to ask if the bank has shown intent to defend your claim. Bear in mind that solicitors often leave it to the very last minute on the return date to file their defence. If the bank does file a defence, you will then have to take your form back to the court 2 days BEFORE the hearing date.

    9. If the bank do defend, you will have to attend court on the Hearing Date. This hearing will be a PRELIMINARY HEARING. The Sheriff will decide if all reasonable steps have been taken before court to come to an agreement between Defender and Pursuer. If he is satisfied then an PROOF hearing date will be set. This is the hearing for the presentation of evidence, and will be set for about two months after the preliminary hearing.
    Last edited by stevokenevo; 13th May 2008, 21:03:PM. Reason: Ok - ive to add some links, and i am working on the POC just now.

  • #2
    Re: work in progress

    - Scottish Claims Guidance - Legal Beagles

    Have you got the original guide might help you make a start? Its not great a rather lacking in some areas - I wrote it for CAG ages ago simply because no one else was writing one and it was needed, but Scotland claiming isn't my strong area to say the least.
    Last edited by Amethyst; 13th May 2008, 12:25:PM.
    #staysafestayhome

    Any support I provide is offered without liability, if you are unsure please seek professional legal guidance.

    Received a Court Claim? Read >>>>> First Steps

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    • #3
      Re: work in progress

      funnily enough that is VERY similar to the basics i have to work with LOL :okay:

      My main area of concern will be the POC, useful links and faqs.

      I will have a fiddle with it and post it up for approval

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      • #4
        Re: work in progress

        Fabulous you are a star xxxx
        #staysafestayhome

        Any support I provide is offered without liability, if you are unsure please seek professional legal guidance.

        Received a Court Claim? Read >>>>> First Steps

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        • #5
          Re: work in progress

          some would say a disa - star lol

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          • #6
            Re: work in progress

            Just hurry it up will ye. I want to get started as soon as the OFT have stopped playing footsie with the banks.
            My Blog
            http://cabotfanclub.wordpress.com

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            • #7
              Re: work in progress

              The POC is the same one i used for everyone of my claims, but it needs updated and brought in line with the current situation.

              Im working on that now

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