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  • Payday borrowers face Christmas credit shock

    It seems the so called knights in shining armour helping you out in a sticky spot could in fact help ruin your future.



    They used to be billed as emergency loans. Now they are on offer for everything from breast implants to an indulgent day at the shops.

    But while borrowers promise themselves it’s ‘just this once’, short-term payday loans from legal loan sharks are fast becoming a black mark on their credit file and a blow to financial health for years to come.

    Financial Mail has learnt that Experian, the UK’s biggest credit reference agency, has begun categorising payday loans separately from other forms of borrowing when issuing credit reports on bank customers.






    Concern: MP Stella Creasy (left) fears a Christmas ‘nightmare’ over loans from groups such as Wonga (below) and the Money Shop (above right)



    It means that this Christmas, consumers with a history of using payday loans will be identifiable in Experian’s credit reports for the first time.

    Banks have been quick to react. One contacted by Financial Mail said it declined loans to any new customers it found had been using payday lenders.

    Others admitted privately that payday borrowing would count against those applying for loans and mortgages, even years later.

    A spokesman for Experian said: ‘We decided to begin separating short-term loans from ordinary loans in our reports because they are becoming increasingly popular, because they are a different type of loan and because we were responding to what our clients were asking from us.’

    He said there had been a ‘mixture of responses’ from mainstream lenders to the use of payday loans and not all of them would take the same attitude to payday borrowers as they would with bankrupts.

    Anyone hoping to improve their credit rating by taking a payday loan and paying it back within the required period may be misguided.


    Paul Lynam, chief executive of Secure Trust Bank, whose respectable Everyday Loans subsidiary deals with many who are trying to get out of the payday loan trap, said: ‘A wider societal issue is that most banks will have what they call fatal criteria within their automated credit decision tools.

    ‘If one of these criteria is triggered, a loan request will be automatically declined. Banks are increasingly including the existence of a payday loan within the fatal criteria.’

    Although most of the major lenders deny they would refuse finance to someone who had a payday loan or had one in the past, unofficially executives admit that repeated use of payday loans makes them wary.

    Payday loan organisation the Consumer Finance Association said this was ‘unfair’ to borrowers

    Payday loans have been called the Japanese knotweed of the consumer credit markets and are engulfing low-income families. Loans are offered almost instantly, interest rates of more than 4,000 per cent are typical and penalties for failing to pay in time are almost always punitive. Wonga, Britain’s biggest payday loan lender, takes back £136.72 for a 30-day loan of £100.

    Lynam, a former Royal Bank of Scotland banker, said: ‘People with payday loans will find it increasingly difficult to get mainstream lending or mortgage facilities because they have fallen for the seductive payday loan marketing.

    ‘In that respect the majority of people we see with payday loan difficulties are males aged 25 or under. If this is representative of the bigger picture, that is really quite concerning indeed as a generation of young men could be in serious danger of having their credit files seriously blighted.’

    Stella Creasy, Labour and Co-operative MP for Walthamstow in north-east London, said she was ‘desperately concerned’ about the growth of the market.

    ‘This is turning out to be everything I warned the Government it would become – and worse,’ she said. ‘Christmas is going to be a nightmare and it is only going to get worse next year.’

    The Office of Fair Trading said it had identified 222 payday loan firms operating in Britain. But Creasy said that may underestimate the true extent of the market. She said the problem facing low-income families was growing, with energy bills due to rise next year and benefits being cut.

    But she also said it was spreading to groups previously considered to be insulated from credit problems.

    ‘Ministers say people need to have a choice. But many families don’t have a choice. The Government’s approach seems to be that we shouldn’t interfere in markets, but in reality we do that all the time and it is necessary to make sure markets work effectively,’ she said.

    Far from being restricted to emergencies and one-offs, borrowers are using payday loans to raise money for food, fuel and other bills and a fifth even said they had used one to pay the rent, according to a Which? report last week.

    A separate report due to be released today is expected to renew calls for a clampdown on payday lenders. The Centre for Responsible Credit says studies in Japan suggest wide-ranging reforms since 2006 across the country’s previously notorious loan shark market have vastly reduced levels of toxic debt.

    The Office of Fair Trading will soon publish revised guidance on debt collection that is expected to limit the ability of payday loan companies to dip into borrowers’ bank accounts – known as continuous payment authority.

    It is also planning to issue its long-awaited report on the sector by the end of the year amid mounting pressure from groups that work with low-income families.

    Payday loan firms argue they provide an alternative to doorstep loan sharks. But groups say that low-income families should be seeking alternative forms of help rather than resorting to high-interest loans and getting further into debt.


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  • #2
    Re: Payday borrowers face Christmas credit shock

    IMHO it is so very very important now that wrongful credit default markers are able to be dealt with swiftly and full and proper compensation given to the person it has affected.
    These payday loan companies are taking money from the wrong accounts and even though they say it is usually identity theft' I for one do not believe this is the norm. They can not imo get you money in your account as stated in 15 mins doing a thorough check on anyone without making some cock ups along the way.
    They then chase these cock ups ruthlessly and adding a wrong marker on your credit file will I think happen a lot.
    It will happen even with genuine cases as stated too imo as things worsen in our financial climate.

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    • #3
      Re: Payday borrowers face Christmas credit shock

      Ithink everone by now should know enough about payday loans and the problems they can caose to be able to makean informed decision before taking one out we have evolved a society where some feel they need to spend spend spend no matter how they get the money ,we have im sure all been guilty as i know from experience thankfully not with payday loans that obtaining loans when your credit history is good is to easyi like many who post on here have learnt our lesson we after all cannot be protected from our selfs .
      payday looan firms prey on those who are either desparate or nieve before taking out the loan they must have heard or read of the problems they can cause the government will not control these companies but may force a change in how they opereate but like bailiffs a debt collectors many which are highlighted on LB they will get round them

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      • #4
        Re: Payday borrowers face Christmas credit shock

        I think not Wales


        Almost 40pc of payday loans used to buy food

        Consumer rights group Which? has called for a clampdown on "irresponsible lending" as it emerged that almost 40pc of payday loans are taken out to buy basics such as food.


        http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...-buy-food.html

        This not to mention the young who even on a night out can ring up and get cash in their account almost pronto. Probably peer pressure, drink or drug fuelled will cloud their decision to take out such loans.
        Banks do have things in situ to help with gambling when they see accounts being used for this, I doubt these buggers will care about that either.

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        • #5
          Re: Payday borrowers face Christmas credit shock

          I cannot emphasize enough how dangerous payday loans are!! I am now trying to break out the payday loan cycle for good. I know in the United States quite a few of these sharks have had their license removed.
          My new year resolution for 2013, is to be in a position where I can honestly say I am not in debt!!!!

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          • #6
            Re: Payday borrowers face Christmas credit shock

            Hi

            The emphasis on car MOTs they sometimes use on the TV adverts, well, clever marketing for them maybe, as people can tend not to put money aside for the MOT and the bill can sometimes be unexpectably high and cars can be vital, so they are tempted and we all know where that can lead.

            The OFT are looking into the Payday Loan companies aren't they, will it change anything? well again I think us on here probably know the answer to that one, OFT looking into them! the traps opened a long time ago and the dogs have gone, but you have to laugh I suppose.

            Seriously though, in my opinion, these Payday loan companies are also damaging the Credit Unions and much more than the doorstep lenders ever could or did.

            Not good with the introduction of Universal Credit coming next year, can the credit unions combat what I call 'this menace' is a question that is now being asked as the Payday Loan companies have cast their lines way in front of them and are catching all the fish.

            Maybe the OFT can cut the lines, yeah, right!

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            • #7
              Re: Payday borrowers face Christmas credit shock

              One of my daughters mentioned that one of the bigger payday Companies uses elderly characters to advertise. A false sense of security. Almost as if to make the Company likeable!

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              • #8
                Re: Payday borrowers face Christmas credit shock

                They do indeed, they also "sponser" a football team and some tv programes
                Never give up, Never surrender.

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                • #9
                  Re: Payday borrowers face Christmas credit shock

                  Originally posted by singlemom View Post
                  One of my daughters mentioned that one of the bigger payday Companies uses elderly characters to advertise. A false sense of security. Almost as if to make the Company likeable!
                  Hi

                  The tunes are catchy also, they market them well, I seem to remember similar stuff with the secured lending on TV when it was at its height a few years ago, look where that lead and the irony and perhaps tragedy, is that some who are still reeling from the effects of that (the credit crunch & house price crash) are now falling prey to the Payday sales and marketing along with other current & 'new customers'

                  Also I watched the news on TV earlier in the week and just before the commercial break the newscaster gave a concerned looking mention of the "OFT looking into Payday Loan companies" and this would be one of the stories after the break, whats the point you may ask? - well the first commercial advert of the break was a payday loan company - the irony partly being that the newscaster might not have realised the connection, surely not we cry!

                  But not to worry, the OFT Cavalry are on the horizon, galloping to the rescue
                  Last edited by Latch Key Kid; 24th November 2012, 12:53:PM.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Payday borrowers face Christmas credit shock

                    Originally posted by dogtired View Post
                    They do indeed, they also "sponser" a football team and some tv programes
                    Hi

                    How are these people going explain the OFT involvment, simple really, nothing will likely happen or it may be a slap on the wrists and a, well, lets give them time to put things in order.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Payday borrowers face Christmas credit shock

                      Hi

                      Anyway, Im off to relax for a while now and watch the Channel Four 'Countdown' Quiz Show repeats on freeview if I can find them on anywhere, mmm, who was that lovely woman presenter that used to be on there?

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                      • #12
                        Re: Payday borrowers face Christmas credit shock

                        carol vorderman

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                        • #13
                          Re: Payday borrowers face Christmas credit shock

                          Have you seen w-end papers about bailiffs and payday loan companies? It sounds like their boat is slowly drifting ashore (AT LAST).

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