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    Hello - feel free to move into the right forum if this is not the appropriate one.

    I've today received a phone call from Lowell in relation to an old T-Mobile account. They say the account was opened on 19/08/2008, defaulted on 10/02/2011 and that the last payment I made was on 10/08/2010 for £128.94 (six months before default was made).

    I have looked through bank statements and there is no record of this payment on that date. I asked whether they (Lowell) could provide me with how the payment was made - they could not, saying that due to time period they wouldn't be able to have that information. I asked if they could send me a statement so that I could go back and check dates as to when previous payments may have been made; she said that they (Lowell) do not have to provide me with statements due to the nature of the account and that T-Mobile would probably have gotten rid of them anyway again due to time so she would not be able to furnish me with these.

    I double checked my bank again, still no record of that transaction in August 2010 happening. I have gone back further and the last payment I made was for £140 on 8th December 2009.

    I know that this would be statute barred ordinarily despite the later default date. However I think I recall seeing something about a case which went to court fairly recently and whether the last payment date (plus one or two months) is where the SB clock starts or whether it is the default date. Would anyone know how this has progressed and whether I can tell Lowell that this account they have for me is SB'd or not?

    On another matter recently where I made a complaint to the FOS in relation to another DCA, the FOS wrote to me and in their letter they state that to them, the last payment date is when the SB clock starts. However, I don't want to say this to Lowell if it turns out it has been superceded by a court stating the default date is the beginning of the SB clock.

    I would appreciate it if someone could just update me as to whether I can tell Lowell to go away (in more polite terms of course!) as it is SB or not. Ideally I'd like to say it is SB'd and unless they can prove payment (which it appears they can't) then to not contact me again over it.

    Thank you

    Amy
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    Re: Lowell - old account

    Good evening Amy.

    My impression is that Lowell are unsure of their ground on this alleged debt.
    Lowell more often than not go straight for court action due to the difficulty in
    defending claims arising from " service " contracts.

    Make a check of your credit files just incase Lowell has made a " mistake " on the
    default date ( not unknown).
    I would challenge that the default is not relevant but that cessation of payments started
    the clock.

    Is there any mention of court action.


    nem

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    • #3
      Re: Lowell - old account

      It's no longer on my credit files. The debt used to be under Sigma Red, but the past couple of months it has disappeared from my report. No mention of court action - the first I heard about it was during yesterdays call when they mentioned they had bought it and what did I want to do. In all literature I've read previously (we've had trouble with Lowell before re: borderline SB'd debts) the cause of action is usually from the first missed payment, not default. The first missed payment would have been 8 January 2010 so 6 years from the first missed payment was last month.

      From what she told me I doubt very much they would have paperwork anyway! I'll send a SAR actually and go from there. Thanks!
      Last edited by Aymz; 9th February 2016, 12:29:PM. Reason: changed mind!

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      • #4
        Re: Lowell - old account

        [QUOTE=Aymz;619846]It's no longer on my credit files. The debt used to be under Sigma Red, but the past couple of months it has disappeared from my report. No mention of court action - the first I heard about it was during yesterdays call when they mentioned they had bought it and what did I want to do. In all literature I've read previously (we've had trouble with Lowell before re: borderline SB'd debts) the cause of action is usually from the first missed payment, not default. The first missed payment would have been 8 January 2010 so 6 years from the first missed payment was last month.

        From what she told me I doubt very much they would have paperwork anyway! I'll send a SAR actually and go from there. Thanks![/QUOTE


        Hi,
        Reading through this again I think we could " test the water" here without admitting any liability to Lowell ( as a SAR has a time scale of 40 days) It's tried and tested letter.

        For the personal attention of:

        Mr Andrew Bartle
        Chief Operating Officer
        The Lowell Group
        Ellington House
        9 Savannah Way
        Leeds Valley Park
        Leeds
        LS10 1AH

        Date:

        Ref: use theirs: if there is one or the name of the person with whom you spoke.

        Dear Mr Bartle,

        I refer you to a telephone call I received from Lowell on...............................: in regard to an alleged debt for £...00 arising it is claim
        from an account with T Mobile.

        Please note I do not acknowledge any liability to Lowell or any other company in regard to the alleged.

        The telephone call from Lowell encouraged me to check my credit history very carefully and I have concluded
        from my research that any such alleged debt is statute barred and I will not therefore make any payment or
        offer of payment now or in the future.

        I am aware of allegations being made of " one off " payments being made to accounts that prevent debts
        becoming statute barred however in this case 6 clear years have elapsed without payment or written acknowledgment
        of the alleged.

        I would remind Lowell that the onus of providing unequivocal written proof that this alleged debt is not
        Statute Barred lies entirely with Lowell.

        Yours etc.

        use signed for post, check delivery date.

        nem

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        • #5
          Re: Lowell - old account

          Thank you

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