Cabot Financial/Train2Game.

[Turbo1]

Re: Cabot Financial/Train2Game.

I don't know if it causes any issues at all, but when I tried to enquire about a past student they said "Student name, we don't seem to have 'name' on record under train2Game Marlborough, so this makes me think, as if you have changed over to marlborough (Which mine is under) Would you take all contracts of every student with you... Unless there operating under two separate companies but wont tell you off this. But I am sure they have to inform you of a company change etc.

ummm.... I would know what to suggest with the FOS as they do only deal with financial situations but considering this is also regarding money, i suppose it does count to an extent but i wouldn't know where they stand with a company. Try looking into Citizens Advice they should be able to let you know if you have a chance of getting the course cancelled and how you would go about that.

[Turbo1]

Re: Cabot Financial/Train2Game.

I completely agree with you. But with all the bad press they are getting and probably all the complaints they receive they are not going to give up that easily.

There are two separate companies, one is Marlborough Information services and the other is metropolitan international school. Depending on when you signed you contract etc depends on who your contract is under. As trian2Game used to run under Metropolitan, but don't anymore if you look up the history of metropolitan it has all the other companies under it or used to because they closed like Skillstrain train4trade skills ect. but Train2Game are now under marlborough, and apparently they are not under Metropolitan anymore. Which i thought the contracts would have had to been updated from the change of address on the contract as they are not under that 'Company' as such

[Turbo1]

Re: Cabot Financial/Train2Game.

Yes, I enquired about a student that was at T2G and they said basically that 'Student Name' IS not under Train2Game Marlborough, and have never had any record of this student at all.

Which really confused me so I found out there contract was under Metropolitan as they changed from Metropolitan to Marlborough, as if you check the Metro company history and who was under this company it was all the compaines that had massive complaints about scams etc and are still running and people are complaining or have now closed and the funnier thing about it is they were pretty much all ran by Jan Telensky.

So this is the next bit that confuses me if they have changed company over to Marlborough they haven't informed any student about this change and they cannot find this students name under there contract. are ALL student contracts not supposed to be changed over to Marlborough considering there is no Train2Game Metropolitan anymore? even if these students are not under the course or have been signed off from the course... You would still think they would have some record of past students

[xino]

Re: Cabot Financial/Train2Game.

despite them giving students goodwill gesture of course extensions. They can also charge you MORE money for extension.
A friend of mine said, a student at the forum said he was charged.
Also it says in their contract that they are obliged to charge extra for the course exentsion.

The reason why they would charge some people is to make more money. Especially when you pay £5k upfront, therefore they know you are a money making machine!
but if you are still paying the course money, they see you as a slot machine but will not charge you for extension.

the funny thing is, in the student world MIS says Malborough.
While my contract says Metropolician:/

the guys Clive who is the forum admin said T2G would issue an official statement regarding TIGA.
Still to this day, not official statement had been given!
T2G did not even issue any announcement regarding TIGA, they secretly introduced C&G without the student knowing.

[Turbo1]

Re: Cabot Financial/Train2Game.

How can they kick you off the forum, which they clearly own as it's trademarked with there name and says you should use the forum to help complete work and talk to other students, so that means you don't have access to a part of the course in which they offer...

I thought you had to do each assignment to get to the portfolio to pass it, as you have to do the assignments to do the tests at the end. and it Train2Game is as big as they say they are why are they not 'Massively' advertised why don't they have there own advert on tv or why are training places not advertising there courses or even recommending them to people.

A Masters come after a Ba(Hons) Which you submit part of a distatation and the subject you want to research for this, and you go away do your own independent learning and submit a 10,000 word plus essay on that topic. You can do PhD without the need of a Masters, it doesn't matter on which one you do first.

The people running T2G are probably not even qualified to teach or even mark a Masters... Probably surprise me if they Had a PhD

The ridiculous, I mean They told me you can have an extension on the work if you pay more money to them, to allow you to have extra time working on the projects, as it is only a 3 year course from what I was told. then it's £200 extra on top for an extension on the course.

They should offer you an extension I'm pretty sure it will say somewhere that you are allowed one. and for certain circumstances they are allowed to grant you extensions. (it would be written in some form of education programme which is the same across the board)

[Turbo1]

Re: Cabot Financial/Train2Game.

This just reminded, me when I received a letter from T2G in regards to Tiga. It mentions pretty much that T2G created all there Tiga Certificates themselves, in which isn't that a copy right breech and that means it isn't a real Tiga diploma if T2G are then creating them all themselves and putting the whole course together?

Also the fact that, T2G are now saying that the Tiga diploma isn't actually that recognised in the industry doesn't this then mean they are mis-sold to us by saying it was a 'Massively' recognised in the industry?

which brings me to my last point, none of our contracts have been updated, so does this mean our old contracts don't mean anything because of the new updates to the course etc and the changes made as none of this is in our contracts at all. and no one was informed of this changed apart from, from the forums etc.

[xino]

Re: Cabot Financial/Train2Game.

ye my letter says that tiga never did any of the examining.
t2g did all the examining. my letter says that although tiga had name on there, they did nothing. t2g did all the examining, tiga was just a name. nothing more.

what would you call this mis representation? missold? whether 2010 or not when i signed. i now feel this isnt right. either way i have stopped study, i have not finished the course. all of this has terribly gotten in the way and i am now here writing this rather than working in the game industry so i am hoping they see this.

check my letter the 24 march. that was there last letter to me and it gave me more information than anything they had ever communicated, not much information. but prior they side stepped like hell now.

so what i am saying is that if tiga didn't do anything then how can it be a tiga qualification - its a t2g qualification.

also the change post 2015 where tiga and t2g split meant a change in what my contract was. which was not notified to me so in few months i was to finish a tiga dip and then an entire cand g. they should have just scraped the tiga years ago.

it is not our problem if TIGA did nothing. They used TIGA as a forefront and selling tool!
If T2G terminated the contract with TIGA, therefore they are going against their advertising claims!

also it is a lie for T2G to terminate. TIGA were the ones who terminated!
Because TIGA made official announcement, yet T2G never made any official announcement. Students only found out at the forums, and the admin just issued a lie saying it was T2G who terminated TIGA, admin said an official statement is coming.


.................................................. .................................................. ..............................still today! No official statement had been made. Not from T2GWinners, not from T2G blog, not from their website, twitter or facebook!
So who is lying?
if they were the ones who terminated, they should have given reason and official statement.

Exactly, if T2G staffs were marking the exams, why advertise it was TIGA who does so???
also TIGA did not have to mark courses, it was advertised that they mark exams and provide the certificate.

I can't stand any words from T2G.
they are just loose sam artists!

[xino]

Re: Cabot Financial/Train2Game.

from T2G FAQS
Yes, the Train2Game courses are completely legitimate. They have been designed by industry professionals from DR Studios. The courses have been designed to meet the current needs of the games industry, and are updated regularly to keep pace with changes.

LOL....you got to be kidding me!
the courses were designed by pros from DR Studios?
and when you check out DR Studios published games:
*My Sea Park
*ischool-dreams-my-valentines
*ischool-dreams-first-semester
*Risk
*Risk II
*monopoly-tycoon
*seaworld-adventure-parks-tycoon
*Beach Life
*Vegas Tycoon
*Hospital Tycoon


This is what pisses me off!
by professional industry? who shipped 14 titles, under mobile and PC games:/ And with just 2 genres: casual and simulation.

Yet these guys were the ones who wrote the Game Design courses talking about building games on consoles, building different genre games.
No wonder why I found the english bizarre, because when reading the study book felt like a fanboy at a forum wrote the book!

[xino]

Re: Cabot Financial/Train2Game.

what do you mean?

gather the evidences and letters, of Train2Game saying they are still issuing TIGA qualification before Feb 2015.
obviously this is a darn lie!
gather evidence of T2G saying TIGA was not involved, this is a lie.
If it is after 2015 you signed up with the course, it's true because that was when TIGA broke up with T2G.

i singed in 2010. but they say tiga never were involved

:/
Don't listen to what T2G says.
TIGA broke relationship with T2G 2015, therefore if you signed up with T2G 2010, TIGA were supporting them!
Check ALL the materials sent by T2G, it should have TIGA there!

Because I signed up Nov 2010, therefore materials i have says TIGA everywhere:/

like I told you. T2G will tell you TIGA is no longer involved.
yes no longer which was post 2015!
But tiga was supporting them since 2009-2015.

http://www.develop-online.net/news/t...course/0104622

[xino]

Re: Cabot Financial/Train2Game.

@Turbo @love
gather the evidences and letters, of Train2Game saying they are still issuing TIGA qualification before Feb 2015.
obviously this is a darn lie!
gather evidence of T2G saying TIGA was not involved, this is a lie.
If it is after 2015 you signed up with the course, it's true because that was when TIGA broke up with T2G.

they obviously breached their contract, because TIGA was plastered all over T2G courses and qualification.
So these evidences can be used against them.

At the court, we are not the ones attending, it would be our solicitors who would speak on our behalf.


any objections?

[Turbo1]

Re: Cabot Financial/Train2Game.

I have an E-mail saying that TIGA will not allow T2G students to have an Tiga qualification, but T2G says that they will still be given to students who have been on the course before feb 2015?

That means T2G cannot offer this qualification out what so ever doesn't it?

[xino]

Re: Cabot Financial/Train2Game.

T2G does things discreetly.
Many students don't have the courage to take on T2G or complaint to them. They just accept the fact that they'v been scammed and move on.
Others try to take on T2G but later couldn't be bothered.
Others who fought T2G, got their victory but T2G told them to be quiet.

T2G knows what they are doing. They are sam artist. They look at areas and field that are lacking, and they jump into it. And start ripping people off.
From plumbing courses to IT courses, knowing there are other companies doing training courses.
But when they saw the games industry has little to no training courses, they saw this as the jackpot.

They can easily shut down and run off with our money, but they know the games industry is a gold mine. And how constantly students are flocking to take their courses.
Because they know it is HARD to get into the industry.

That is why anyone who talks bad about T2G, instantly they take those people to court. That is why when you search if T2G is sam, you wouldn't find much on google.
Because google was also threatened once as well.

Only the guy who got his money back first time was the only one that pushed T2G. And after his success, T2G wrote to him to keep all the incident quiet, but he refused.

If we take them to court, we will surely win because they breached the rules, and contract.
And if we go en masse, it gives us more power.
T2G can just easily lie in court, but with en masse, we will go against their words.

Regarding the TIGA.
It is clearly shown that TIGA were backing up T2G.
I got letters and materials with TIGA's name!
2015 was when TIGA broke up with T2G and told them to remove all things TIGA.
That is why we would not find anything TIGA on their website.
but my old materials are proven evidence!

listen, WHATEVER T2G says in the letter, do not listen to them!
They will speak to you like you are the fool!
in the audio conversation i had with them, they spoke to me like I was a retard who did not know what he was talking about.

[charitynjw]

Re: Cabot Financial/Train2Game.

If you go into any shop and picked up an item priced £4. And go to the till and they charge you £8. You have the right to pay £4, because it is "sell as priced" law.

Hi xino

A price on an item (say on the shelf) is called an 'invitation to treat'.
When you take the item to the till to pay, you are making an offer to buy.
When the (shopkeeper/person on the till) takes your money, they are accepting your offer.
The 'consideration for value', the money offered/accepted, seals the deal.

More HERE

[xino]

Re: Cabot Financial/Train2Game.

Hello guys.
Glad many students are awakening from this nonsense!

I searched my contract...and T2G broke one of their rules!
6. CANCELLATION BY TELEPHONE IS NOT ACCEPTABLE
While I was on the phone, one of the adviser threatened me (I have phone conversation recorded), telling me if I keep pushing them he would cancel my course, I didn't care, I kept questioning their actions. And he went ahead and cancelled the course.
Days later I got a letter telling me "it was my wish I wanted to cancel the course".
It just pisses me SO much how they keep manipulating words and putting nonsense in our mouth.
Now they shut themselves in the foot, if they claimed I requested to cancel the course over the phone. Their contract says they don't do that.
So by them cancelling my course over the phone, means they broke the rule!

They broke rule 4! Regarding change of address.
The guy who cancelled my course over the phone, said I should have INFORMED them!
And I told the guy I informed my tutor.

Man I can't wait to tear these guys apart!
Now I see the truth. I will use the same contract they are using against, and use it against them!

[MENTION=82016]love[/MENTION]
confident? all we have to do is use the same tool these Train2Game are using against us!
The law is there for companies, the same law is also there to protect us.
If you go into any shop and picked up an item priced £4. And go to the till and they charge you £8. You have the right to pay £4, because it is "sell as priced" law.
People who got their money back from Train2Game, we just have to use their examples .

Regarding the copyright material.
If T2G used artworks or pictures that is under fair use.
Some images are free for others to use, however there would be conditions.
Not to make money, for education, license, giving credits, not to edit the picture etc.

in my game design course, there are tons of images from different games, though they gave credit to the names and publishers. ( i don't think there's a problem to this, because they gave aforementioned credit to the developers)
However the real infringement are the texts in the study book.
copy n paste some of the text on google, word for word.
And you will see the original location they plagarised it from, either from wikipedia, book or website.


Sending an application to FoS is no big deal.
Just explain your case with an overview.
Highlight if the salesman misinformed you about any details before you signed the course.
After you signed it, you later found out what salesman said was different to what was said in contract.

Then talk about TIGA, and how bad T2G treated you.
the problems with the course.

Tell FoS you want your money back from T2G.



I spoke to the FoS, the guy told me I needed to send him the final decision letter from T2G.
So i sent him the final letter which I was not happy about the result.
So he would look into it and later check the in-dept letter I wrote to him.
When I get back to him after 2 weeks, I will message regarding T2G breaking 2 of their rules.

[Turbo1]

Re: Cabot Financial/Train2Game.

Yeah I have just kept researching, I have had some mention back from Tiga in regards to there position of where they stand with train2game, Tiga have said that no T2G student will receive a Tiga Award, I have this in email from someone high up in Tiga but T2G says that anyone who applied for the course before Feb 2015 can and still receive a Tiga qualification. I do also have this in writing so they are breaking the law and lying about still being able to give this award out.

Yeah I keep looking over the contract but I can't see anything wrong with it really, But I have looked over it with an old contract that was put on here, and they have changed the "Name or school they are under" From Metropolitan to Marlborough, but I think it's the same director who runs it or used to run it which is jan telensky.

I noticed that you made this statement "Train2Game just sees us as stupid kids playing over xbox with no brains." I will have you know I play on the PS4 :P ahah

Okay thank you for answering my questions, I will get onto researching that again and try to get to the bottom of this.

Thanks for your help and advice