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Lowell/Red Debt Collection/Hamptons Legal - Advice and Help Required Please

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  • Lowell/Red Debt Collection/Hamptons Legal - Advice and Help Required Please

    Hi all,

    Please bear with me as I have quite a lot to ramble on about.

    I've been reading a lot of posts over the last few days on here and everybody seems to be really helpful, understanding and non-judgmental. I have spoken to a financial adviser about my situation who was rude, condescending and no help at all. I was hoping you guys would be able to give me some direction.

    In 2008 I (like a few people its seems) got into financial difficulty. I lost my job, maxed out one overdraft at one bank and got a credit card and another overdraft from another bank. I used these to fund a the moving costs of a new job abroad. I had the intention of keeping these accounts in order while I was away, but the 'out of sight, out of mind' approach got the better of me. Shameful I know and I'm not proud. I returned to the UK in late 2009 to obviously find these accounts defaulted/not available. For the next couple of years I've done contract work up and down the country and have had DCA letters follow me around the country that to be honest I have ignored. Head in the sand approach again I'm afraid. As a single person I only had myself to think of, so these debts didn't take priority.

    I'm now in the position where I'm in a loving relationship and have a decent, well paid, permanent job. I'm very much settled and happy after a few turbulent years inc. a lot of personal problems. In the next few years or so I'd like to get a mortgage etc, but obviously my checkered financial past will affect this so I want to start sorting things ASAP.

    What I would like and really appreciate is some impartial advice on what to do about my debts. On one hand I am in a position now to make monthly payments and eventually pay off the debt. On the other hand I would rather save for the future rather than put money into Lowell's pockets and from reading these forums I'm even more keen not to pay them. I'm also fairly convinced (again from reading these forums) that my debts will become Statute Barred by June next year.

    Here are the details that I have on the debts:

    Bank A Credit Card - Owing £3600 - Last letter received is from Hamptons Legal in May - 'Overdue Account - we may prepare for more serious action, which could include applying for a CCJ against you'. I have not heard anything since this letter. It is also not showing on credit file. In previous letters they have offered me 30% discount. After taking the card out and moving abroad I am ashamed to say I never paid anything. This was taken out in May 2008.


    Bank A Overdraft- Owing £1700 Last letter received is from Lowell financial in August - This account was opened May 2008 and has not been used since June 2008. I pretty much used the overdraft and credit card to fund my moved abroad and never used them again. This is showing as a defualt on my credit file in Feb 2009.


    Bank B Overdraft - Owing £2000 - 4 letters in the last month from Red Debt Collection - Opened in 2006 and no activity since May 2008 (possibly before) - From my credit file I can see the default date is 2010 this was passed on to Lowell August 2013. It is showing as satisfied on my credit file and not currently showing as a Lowell debt.

    Further Info - I have never responded to any letters/phone calls and never acknowledged any debt. Unfortunately I don't have exact dates or paperwork to go along with these debts. I just know that I stopped using the accounts when I moved abroad in June 2008. I only have correspondence from the collection companies from this year only.

    Please can anyone advise on the best way forward based on the above?

    I have by no means been the perfect person in the past and have made a few mistakes, like many of us. I've also had my own problems which I know is no excuse but does affect how you act. What I want to do now is start building a future.

    Thank you very much if you have read all of this.
    Last edited by osbourne; 11th November 2013, 10:20:AM.
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    Re: Lowell/Red Debt Collection/Hamptons Legal - Advice and Help Required Please

    Hi Osbourne! Hopefully some one with more knowledge will be along to help you.
    Never give up, Never surrender.

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      Re: Lowell/Red Debt Collection/Hamptons Legal - Advice and Help Required Please

      Thank you for the welcome dogtired. Yes, I hope so too. It would be nice to get some non-judgmental advice. I must add that I have signed up to an Experian account and added old addresses etc. This was to get a full picture of my debt. Will this urge Lowell on in their pursuit of me, or does it make no difference? Sorry if it's a silly question.

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      • #4
        Re: Lowell/Red Debt Collection/Hamptons Legal - Advice and Help Required Please

        Not sure!
        Although my status is "Alsatian" I am still learning about this.
        I think there is differences in overdrafts and credit cards.
        With a credit card you can ask for a CCA for which there is a fee of £1.00.
        there is a very good thread on Debt collectors on site which will give you some pointers and this will act as a "Bump" for your questions.
        Never give up, Never surrender.

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        • #5
          Re: Lowell/Red Debt Collection/Hamptons Legal - Advice and Help Required Please

          Thank you for your taking the time to look at my post and for your replies, dogtired. I appreciate it. I should also note for anyone else looking that I have no bad debt since these three accounts in 2008.

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          • #6
            Re: Lowell/Red Debt Collection/Hamptons Legal - Advice and Help Required Please

            By registering with a Credit Reference Agency you have updated the DCAs information. Lowell, Hamptons and Red Debt are all the same company

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            • #7
              Re: Lowell/Red Debt Collection/Hamptons Legal - Advice and Help Required Please

              Wonder who owns shares in CRAs?

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              • #8
                Re: Lowell/Red Debt Collection/Hamptons Legal - Advice and Help Required Please

                Thanks for your reply, ODC. Can you advise on what to do about it now that I have registered with a CRA? I guess I should say that I have numerous addresses that I've resided at over the past few years due to working around the country. If it helps any I could change the address on my credit file to my Father's address. Also, Lowell must have known my current address somehow before I registered with a CRA. They have been sending letters since the beginning of the year and I registered with a CRA only a month or so ago. I should have made clear that I do know that all 3 are the same company (from reading on here), but thank you anyway.

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                • #9
                  Re: Lowell/Red Debt Collection/Hamptons Legal - Advice and Help Required Please

                  Have you sent CCA requests to Lowells for any of the alleged credit card debts yet

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                    Re: Lowell/Red Debt Collection/Hamptons Legal - Advice and Help Required Please

                    I haven't had any communication whatsoever with either the banks or Lowell/other agencies since I moved abroad in June 2008. Do you think I would be wise to send CCA requests at this stage? Will this do anything to 'reset the clock' on my debts? Also, am I right in thinking that CCA requests do not apply for overdrafts? Would paying for legal help/no win, no fee from someone recommended on here be a good idea? Sorry for all the questions but I just want to make sure I do what is best for the future. Thanks for taking the time to reply.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Lowell/Red Debt Collection/Hamptons Legal - Advice and Help Required Please

                      Send nothing until the Leeds Losers get in touch with you. You will great advice on dealing with the pond life then

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                        Re: Lowell/Red Debt Collection/Hamptons Legal - Advice and Help Required Please

                        Do you mean them getting in touch in terms of escalating their threats to a Statutory Demand? I haven't received anything (touch wood!) close to this yet. The scariest letter was from Hampton's Legal in May (perhaps, may, possibly etc), but I haven't heard anything on that particular debt since then.

                        I should mention that I registered with a CRA with the view of sorting out and paying off my debts. After reading on here about how unprofessional and ruthless Lowell are, combined with the fact I now realise the debt will not be paid to the banks but to Lowell I now think I would be better off saving the money for a deposit for a house in a few years time. The fact that I've just learned about Statute Barred debts only compounds my opinions. I do not dispute the fact that I owe the money (on here), but if I'm given advice that I'd be better off personally not paying them at this stage then I will follow that. Like I say I'm happy to pay someone if it comes to that as obviously I have no understanding or expertise in this field, only what I have read.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Lowell/Red Debt Collection/Hamptons Legal - Advice and Help Required Please

                          Originally posted by osbourne View Post
                          I haven't had any communication whatsoever with either the banks or Lowell/other agencies since I moved abroad in June 2008. Do you think I would be wise to send CCA requests at this stage?
                          If they are not getting in touch with you, I'd let sleeping dogs lie. One thing to bear in mind is that if they haven't got your current address, they can easily issue a claim at your last known address and obtain default judgment.

                          Originally posted by osbourne View Post
                          Will this do anything to 'reset the clock' on my debts?
                          CCA requests shouldn't reset the clock. Shame you're not in Scotland...

                          Originally posted by osbourne View Post
                          Also, am I right in thinking that CCA requests do not apply for overdrafts?
                          Sadly, you are right, although there is some information that should be provided for O/Ds: http://www.legalbeagles.info/forums/...144#post312144

                          Originally posted by osbourne View Post
                          Would paying for legal help/no win, no fee from someone recommended on here be a good idea? Sorry for all the questions but I just want to make sure I do what is best for the future. Thanks for taking the time to reply.
                          Why would you want to do that at this stage? Conditional Fee Agreements (a.k.a. no-win-no-fee) only apply when you are going to court, either as a claimant (i.e. a personal injury claim) or as defendant (if a creditor is taking you to court). In the first instance, the "fee" would be covered if you win your claim, in the second, from costs awarded against the creditor (provided you win).:juge:

                          If you are not going to court, no-win-no-fee does not apply. Furthermore, I can't see anything on your posts that suggests you may be in need of legal advice at the moment. :noidea: Should that change in the future, both the site owner (Celestine) :yo: and PT2537 (who is part of the Site Team) :yo: work in the legal profession, so they would be your first choice. :thumb:

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                          • #14
                            Re: Lowell/Red Debt Collection/Hamptons Legal - Advice and Help Required Please

                            Originally posted by osbourne View Post
                            Do you mean them getting in touch in terms of escalating their threats to a Statutory Demand? I haven't received anything (touch wood!) close to this yet. The scariest letter was from Hampton's Legal in May (perhaps, may, possibly etc), but I haven't heard anything on that particular debt since then.
                            They are issuing SDs like confetti :mad2: :mad2: :mad2: but Celestine, the Site owner has an outstanding track record fighting the Leeds Losers and getting the SDs set aside.

                            See this for reference: http://www.legalbeagles.info/forums/...ands-READ-HERE

                            Originally posted by osbourne View Post
                            I should mention that I registered with a CRA with the view of sorting out and paying off my debts. After reading on here about how unprofessional and ruthless Lowell are, combined with the fact I now realise the debt will not be paid to the banks but to Lowell I now think I would be better off saving the money for a deposit for a house in a few years time. The fact that I've just learned about Statute Barred debts only compounds my opinions. I do not dispute the fact that I owe the money (on here), but if I'm given advice that I'd be better off personally not paying them at this stage then I will follow that. Like I say I'm happy to pay someone if it comes to that as obviously I have no understanding or expertise in this field, only what I have read.
                            As you haven't paid or acknowledged the debts since 2008, you have just one year to go before they are SBd. With a bit of luck, that year will go by without further communications. ray:

                            At this stage, it would be very unwise to start communicating with them and making repayment offers, as that would only reset the SBd clock. :scared: :scared: :clock:

                            If the debts were defaulted in 2008, your credit file should be clear sometime next year, leaving you in a position to apply for credit, including a mortgage. :whoo:

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                            • #15
                              Re: Lowell/Red Debt Collection/Hamptons Legal - Advice and Help Required Please

                              Thank you very much FlamingParrot for your detailed reply. You have certainly put my mind at ease. I appreciate your kindness and help with reviewing my situation and for taking the time to reply. I am quite overwhelmed by the kindness of strangers on this board, not only in this thread but all across the site.

                              Just a few questions if you don't mind:

                              "If they are not getting in touch with you, I'd let sleeping dogs lie. One thing to bear in mind is that if they haven't got your current address, they can easily issue a claim at your last known address and obtain default judgment. "

                              They are getting in touch with me sporadically. Not since May on one (the highest) debt, August on one and 4 times within the last month on the final debt. However, none of these are particularly threatening and are offering discounts etc. The most threatening one was from Hamptons Legal in May and I haven't heard anything since then on that particular debt. Do you think I have anything to worry about for the forseeable future? Also, they must know my current address as they are sending letters, but these letters have followed me around the country and nothing (touch wood again!) has happened yet.

                              "As you haven't paid or acknowledged the debts since 2008, you have just one year to go before they are SBd. With a bit of luck, that year will go by without further communications. ray:"

                              "If the debts were defaulted in 2008, your credit file should be clear sometime next year, leaving you in a position to apply for credit, including a mortgage."

                              I have not touched any of the debts since June 2008. However, as two of these are overdrafts does this make a difference? Does the SB clock start from the last payment made into a current account or is it when they deem it to be defaulted? One account is defaulted 2009 and the other 2010 on my credit file, although as I say I have not made any payments into these accounts since June 2008. Also, the credit card is not showing on my credit file at all. Is this good/bad/indifferent?

                              Thanks again for your help, you have put me at ease. I certainly shall not be contacting them any time soon.

                              osbourne

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