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    Hi I posted this thread elsewhere but am not getting any resonses even though its being looked at, so i thought maybe I had put this in the wrong place.

    Sorry its so long!

    I am new to the LB site and hope that this is the kind of thing that you can help and adivse on.

    I have just been issued with a statutory demand which I understand I have 18 days to apply for a set aside. I am not sure what would constitute for a set aside though.

    The demand is from CapQuest: -

    I have no statutory notice of default (egg is the original creditor)

    There is no letter of assignment or deed of assignment

    The CCA is from 2000 which I think may mean that the agreement lacks prescribed terms which may make it unenforceable in a court

    I issued a SAR and statements and copies of the agreement were sent out in 2009. Last week they sent all the stuff again but this time with terms and conditions - 2 sets - one which they say were in force at the time the credit card was applied for, and one which they say were in force when the debt went into default.

    I had an agreement to pay back the debt to CQ and was doing so but out of the blue they sent a legal letter saying I had defaulted (which I had not and could prove it) and they put on £800+ of interest ( are they allowed to put on interest if the debt is not properly assigned - I have no agreement for interest with CQ). Also, it seems that interest has been applied for the few months when they bought the debt from egg and them contacting me. They have never said what rate of interest they are applying.

    I have been in correspondence with CQ since 2009 when they said I had defaulted, I have told them I hold the account to be in serious dispute (re missing prescribed terms, also i think that the only copy of the agreement is on microfiche).

    I have SARed Egg, twice, and both times they came back with a null response.

    Do I need examples of case law to go into the court? If so, which ones and where might I get them from.


    in the SD's particulars of debt it says

    'The agreement terminated upon the failure of ....... to comply with the terms of the agreement and/or a statutory notice of default served by Egg Banking.

    The rights and duties of Egg Banking Plc passed to the Creditor pursuant to an assignment dated ...' (this is just left blank, there is no date).

    It goes on to say that the amount owed is £££ which includes £££ of interest which, has accrued since the assignment of the debt.

    the amount owed is what was on the final egg statement minus payment I had made. They put interest on but took it all off. The claim does not include interest. This make the amount on the SD incorrect.

    I read somewhere that and 'unless' clause can be applied to county court claims, would that be the same with a set aside?

    Help - please! The thought of just stepping foot in a court is making me ill.
    Ed
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  • #2
    Re: Capquest - statutory demand

    You may find this useful reading:

    Debt Collection Agencies Statutory Demands, a few strategies - Legal Beagles Consumer Forum

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    • #3
      Re: Capquest - statutory demand

      Thanks Caspar

      Yes that was very useful reading. Will read again to make sure it's all gone in. I'm not sure how court works with a 'set aside' hearing - do I need examples of case law?

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      • #4
        Re: Capquest - statutory demand

        Any chance you can scan up a copy as the SD may well be invalid, CQ are notorious for issue SD as a form of Debt Collection.

        If you can, then make sure you remove all and any identifiable references such as your name address and any account reference numbers - But leave there names on it, as the named person on the SD MUST be contactable within 3 attempts to contact them (thats if they even exist).
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        • #5
          Re: Capquest - statutory demand

          Hi teaboy2

          I have attached a copy although I think its legit. However, it's interesting that there is no assignment date and it says and/or statutory notice of default. Also, they've said that interest has accrued since assignment.

          This SD was sent by post - no effort of personal service.
          Last edited by eddie; 30th July 2011, 19:46:PM.

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          • #6
            Re: Capquest - statutory demand

            Originally posted by eddie View Post
            Hi teaboy2

            I have attached a copy although I think its legit. However, it's interesting that there is no assignment date and it says and/or statutory notice of default. Also, they've said that interest has accrued since assignment.

            This SD was sent by post - no effort of personal service.
            Barry Bloody Davis the uncontactable. I suggest making 3 calls on 3 seperate dates to the number provided asking for Barry Davies, if possible record the calls, if not then take not of take and the date you made the call. Bet you can't get hold of him

            Also notices that when you minus the interest the amount of the debt is below the £750 minimum required to issue a SD.

            So set aside on grounds of:-

            1 - No DN valid or invalid received from Original Creditor - Therefore the alleged agreement was unlawfully terminated and can not be enforced in court
            2 - No notice of assignement compliant to the Law of Property Act 1925 and Date of of such alleged notice not being stated on the SD
            3 - No date of notice, makes it impossible to tell if interest amount is correct or what the rate of interest is.
            4 - Given Point 3 and 4 above, the debt minus the amount claimed in interest would be below the £750 minimum required to issue a SD.
            5 - CCA lacks the prescribed terms and is therefore invalid and unenforceable in court.

            and 6 - Person named "Barry Davis" on SD as point of contact was uncontactable after 3 seperate attempts by phone to contact him on the following dates and time (add calls recorded if you recorded them and attach a transcript of each call to your application for set aside).

            Am not an expert at setting aside as have never had any Debts i have been helping with for others or any of my own alleged debts result in SD's - so others may like to add or amend where needed.
            Last edited by teaboy2; 30th July 2011, 18:59:PM.
            Please note that this advice is given informally, without liability and without prejudice. Always seek the advice of an insured qualified professional. All my legal and nonlegal knowledge comes from either here (LB),my own personal research and experience and/or as the result of necessity as an Employer and Businessman.

            By using my advice in any form, you agreed to waive all rights to hold myself or any persons representing myself of any liability.

            If you PM me, make sure to include a link to your thread as I don't give out advice in private. All PMs that are sent in missuse (including but not limited to phishing, spam) of the PM application and/or PMs that are threatening or abusive will be reported to the Site Team and if necessary to the police and/or relevant Authority.

            I AM SO GOING TO GET BANNED BY CEL FOR POSTING terrible humour POSTS.

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            • #7
              Re: Capquest - statutory demand

              Thanks so much for that it is extremely helpful, teaboy2

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              • #8
                Re: Capquest - statutory demand

                Given CrapQuest's antics, shouldn't the OP make an application for costs?

                He should, of course, notify Consumer Direct (0845 4 04 05 06) and/or the Office of Faffing and Twaddling to complain about CrapQuest; eventually, even the OFT might do something about them.

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                • #9
                  Re: Capquest - statutory demand
                  hi everyone

                  I have to hand in my set-aside in the next couple of days. I kind of know what my reasons are but don't know if the form is properly filled in.

                  Also, do I make mention that I was paying the debt for a few years until CQ suddenly accused of not paying 2 years ago?

                  Could someone pls take a look and comment?

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                  • #10
                    Re: Capquest - statutory demand

                    Originally posted by eddie View Post
                    hi everyone

                    I have to hand in my set-aside in the next couple of days. I kind of know what my reasons are but don't know if the form is properly filled in.

                    Also, do I make mention that I was paying the debt for a few years until CQ suddenly accused of not paying 2 years ago?

                    Could someone pls take a look and comment?

                    EDIT

                    forget that it is right i always get confused between the two forms lol
                    Last edited by teaboy2; 3rd August 2011, 18:46:PM.
                    Please note that this advice is given informally, without liability and without prejudice. Always seek the advice of an insured qualified professional. All my legal and nonlegal knowledge comes from either here (LB),my own personal research and experience and/or as the result of necessity as an Employer and Businessman.

                    By using my advice in any form, you agreed to waive all rights to hold myself or any persons representing myself of any liability.

                    If you PM me, make sure to include a link to your thread as I don't give out advice in private. All PMs that are sent in missuse (including but not limited to phishing, spam) of the PM application and/or PMs that are threatening or abusive will be reported to the Site Team and if necessary to the police and/or relevant Authority.

                    I AM SO GOING TO GET BANNED BY CEL FOR POSTING terrible humour POSTS.

                    The Governess; 6th March 2012 GRRRRRR

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                    • #11
                      Re: Capquest - statutory demand

                      Originally posted by eddie View Post
                      Help - please! The thought of just stepping foot in a court is making me ill.
                      Ed
                      A stat demand is not actually sent by a court and therefore has no legal authority to it whatsoever - its sent by the DCA and is another way of saying "pay up or else" - it just seems/sounds more serious than what it actually is.
                      If you ever went to court which is highly unlikely you would not be on trial or anything - its all very informal and there is no "guilty" or "not guilty" involved etc..
                      Report these clowns to the authorities if they refuse to stop bugging you.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Capquest - statutory demand

                        Originally posted by mr.ton View Post
                        Report these clowns to the authorities
                        FYPFY.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Capquest - statutory demand

                          What does FYPFY mean?

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                          • #14
                            Re: Capquest - statutory demand

                            Originally posted by mr.ton View Post
                            What does FYPFY mean?
                            Pretty much the same as IFYPFY. (link)

                            (The conditional clause in the sentence seemed redundant, as the momzers should be reported anyway.)

                            HTH

                            HAND

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                            • #15
                              Re: Capquest - statutory demand

                              Well I'm just getting my papers together to go hand them in and swear the affidavit. Maybe CQ will withdraw their demand - hope so.

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