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    Row over ID theft insurance

    Bank customers have complained they are being signed up for ID theft protection insurance that they do not want. Customers of banks including Santander, Barclaycard and NatWest/RBS say it happens when they phone to activate a new credit or debit card. They are put through to the firm Card Protection Plan (CPP) which tries to sell them insurance at the same time. CPP admits some mistakes have been made but insists bank customers are not pressurised into buying its products.

    Hard sell

    One customer, Peter, from Cumbria, rang the number on his replacement Asda credit card, expecting to speak to Asda or Santander, which supplies the card on Asda's behalf. But the number was for Card Protection Plan Limited, which Santander and Asda had contracted to activate their cards. Once the CPP staff member had activated his card, he made a pitch for Peter to buy identity theft protection insurance.

    Peter declined, but he ended up getting it anyway as he told Radio 4's Money Box programme: "The person I spoke to asked me if I wanted an identity theft protection product and I said no."However, when the customer checked his statement recently he discovered he had been billed for £83.99 for the product. When he looked at his statement for the year before more carefully, he realised he had been charged £69.99 then as well, putting him more than £150 out of pocket for a service he did not want. Peter contacted Asda, but was told he needed to speak to CPP. CPP said it would listen to tape recordings of his conversation with the salesman and refund him if he clearly said he did not want the insurance.

    Refund offered

    But Peter was not willing to trust the company's word on this and so phoned a government advice line: "Consumer Direct advised me to write a letter of formal complaint asking for the tape recording of the evidence." CPP could not find the recording and said the agent Peter had spoken to had now left the company. It offered to refund both fees. Barclays, Barclaycard, NatWest/RBS and Yorkshire Bank have a similar contract with CPP. Money Box has also heard from a Santander and a NatWest customer who said they too were signed up for ID theft protection insurance from CPP when they clearly said they did not want it.

    One was offered a refund of the fee and compensation, the other requested his bank cancel the direct debit before any money was taken. Money Box has also heard complaints from listeners angry about the methods CPP is using to try and persuade people to take up its products. This month Mark, from London, rang the number on his Natwest credit card, expecting to have a short conversation with his bank. He too ended up speaking to CPP and getting a sales pitch. He was shocked by its determination: "They just were relentless. I'd already said no several times. I could imagine people caving in." Asda told Money Box that since last year when Peter phoned CPP it has instructed the firm to stop pitching identity theft protection insurance to its customers.

    Calls monitored

    CPP confirmed to Money Box that the banks get a cut from every policy sold. Barclaycard and NatWest/RBS said they approve all call scripts and monitor calls to make sure customers are treated fairly. Santander says it also monitors the service and says it believes the protection CPP offers is relevant and cost effective. Shirley Woolham, a divisional director at CPP, admits some mistakes have been made when bank customers who contacted Money Box were billed for insurance they did not want. She said: "We did listen to the calls identified and without question we did make a mistake." But she said bank customers were not put under undue pressure to buy policies: "We take our customer service activity very seriously. "We ask the customer explicitly if they would like to entertain a conversation about ID theft. If they say no, we do not proceed with the call."

    BBC News - Row over ID theft insurance
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  • #2
    Re: Court bars claimant from seeking further recovery

    How do policies work?

    You will pay a monthly or annual fee for your identity theft protection policy, normally by direct debit. Most policies include access to your credit report and will notify you if any changes are made to your report – such as a loan being taken out in your name. If you start becoming concerned that you are a victim of identity theft – or have evidence that you are - your insurer will allocate you an identity theft expert to help you with your case. They will be able to answer any questions you have and help solve issues arising due to your stolen identity.

    Not a bargain then? lol

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    • #3
      Re: Court bars claimant from seeking further recovery

      So it's not really an insurance policy that 'protects you against identity theft' at all. It's a service provided after your identity has been stolen.

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      • #4
        Re: Court bars claimant from seeking further recovery

        Originally posted by EXC View Post
        So it's not really an insurance policy that 'protects you against identity theft' at all. It's a service provided after your identity has been stolen.

        Exactly

        Do I need ID theft protection?

        In response to the rise of identity theft, banks, insurers and other institutions have started to offer ID theft insurance. If you take out this cover and your identity is stolen, the insurer will help you deal with problems that arise and get your life back on track.
        If you think you would struggle to cope without access to your money if you were to lose your credit or debit cards or wouldn’t know what to do if your identity was stolen, identity theft insurance could be well worth having.
        Policies generally cover you for the expenses you might incur if your identity is stolen. These might include anything from legal fees for defending criminal charges associated with identity theft; telephone calls; postage; or rejected loan application fees and lost wages if you have to take time off work to reclaim your identity. So think about whether you could afford to pay these expenses if you did not have insurance.

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        • #5
          Re: Court bars claimant from seeking further recovery

          and you can get a report for £2 yourself added to that the protection you already get not a good bargain but another ripoff
          If you think nobody cares if you're alive, try missing a couple of payments.

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          • #6
            Re: Court bars claimant from seeking further recovery

            Originally posted by pompeyfaith View Post
            and you can get a report for £2 yourself added to that the protection you already get not a good bargain but another ripoff
            Indeed Is ID theft protection worth the money? | Money | guardian.co.uk

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            • #7
              Re: Court bars claimant from seeking further recovery

              An FOI request would be interesting to see just how many claims are made and a letter to the FSA to see what is being done about this before it gets out of hand just like PPI has got
              If you think nobody cares if you're alive, try missing a couple of payments.

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              • #8
                Re: Court bars claimant from seeking further recovery

                Originally posted by pompeyfaith View Post
                An FOI request would be interesting to see just how many claims are made and a letter to the FSA to see what is being done about this before it gets out of hand just like PPI has got
                Who would you FoI for the info though?

                In the BBC Money Box show CCP conceded that only 1 in 200 people ever claim on their policies.

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                • #9
                  Identity Protection Insurance

                  CREDIT card fraud currently costs the UK a staggering £1 million a day. So, what's being done about it?
                  With fraud on the increase, credit card companies are looking at new ways of boosting security for their customers. From the government-backed Chip & PIN technology to fraud monitoring and identity theft services, security is key where credit cards are concerned.
                  Credit cards are no longer just something that you whip out at the checkout to pay for your weekly shop – instead; they're used to buy goods online, by mail order and over the phone. For many, they are the pay option of choice.
                  Whatever card you hold, the likelihood is that they’ll be security measures in place without you even realising it.
                  But bandying your credit card information here, there and everywhere leaves you wondering just how safe your details are. So, what security factors have credit card companies put in place?
                  - Chip and PIN technology
                  - Fraud monitoring
                  - Fraud protection / Internet fraud guarantees
                  - Identity theft services
                  - "3D Secure" - a VISA and MasterCard service that allows you to set a password to use at participating retailers
                  The list of security options that some credit cards have is seemingly endless, with some companies offering up to six security benefits.
                  However, not all credit cards offer the same levels of security, and just like rates and fees, some cards are better equipped at keeping your money safe than others.
                  Halifax credit cards, for example, offer standard free security services including:
                  - Internet fraud guarantee
                  - Halifax Secure (part of the VISA and MasterCard secure program)
                  But if you want additional peace of mind from Identity theft, then you will have to cough up the cash and pay £6.95 a month for IdentityCare insurance.
                  Whereas Citi Credit Cards offer more security and even include Identity theft services for free:
                  - Internet fraud guarantee
                  - Active fraud protection
                  - Identity Theft Solutions
                  - Barclaycard issued credit cards also come with a handful of security extras, including:
                  - Fraud guarantee
                  - Fraud protection
                  - Barclaycard Secure
                  - Identity Protection Service
                  - Capital One is another issuer to start offering Identity theft services as a free cardholder extra.



                  Busting the jargon
                  Whilst security solutions sound impressive most of the time they’re not exactly written in easy-to-understand plain English. So what do the main ones mean?
                  Fraud monitoring / Active fraud protection: Credit card companies monitor the use of your credit card - usually looking for Internet use/card-not-present (CNP) usage and foreign transactions. If anything seems suspect, it is standard procedure for card companies to phone and discuss anything they deem suspicious with you.
                  Online fraud guarantee / protection: Guarantees you against any fraudulent use of your credit card made online without your consent or knowledge. If it does happen, simply phone your credit card issuer as soon as you know about it and they won't hold you liable for the cost - refunding any money back to your account.
                  Identity theft services: Identity fraud happens when someone uses your personal information - name, address, etc... - to open a financial agreement like a credit card.
                  Identity theft services will help you to restore your credit and name if you ever become a victim of Identity fraud.
                  3D Secure: VISA and MasterCard are taking extra precautions with their '3D Secure' service. It's a pretty new initiative, and if you haven't heard of it, 3D stands for 'Three Domains Secure':
                  1. The merchant
                  2. The acquiring bank
                  3. MasterCard / VISA
                  To take advantage of this security scheme, you'll need to register with Visa/MasterCard and create an account with them. Then, when you’re shopping online on sites that are part of the 3D Secure service you log into your account to proceed with the payment.
                  3D Secure is basically a double security check - as whilst anyone can get hold of your credit card (card or details) if they're determined enough, they won’t have access to all your personal information/passwords that are needed to make a payment on 3D Secure websites.
                  Unfortunately, the downside to 3D Secure is that not every shopping site on the Internet has implemented it – in fact, the majority haven't.
                  What about purchase security?
                  Alongside the fraud security measures is also Section 75 of the Consumer Credit Act 1974, which is the part of the law that holds credit companies liable for the proper delivery of purchases.
                  If a problem arises with a purchase (breach of contract, false information, faulty goods or non-delivery for example) the credit card company is held equally liable with the supplier by law and covers credit card purchases from £100 - £30,000 anywhere in the world.
                  Many credit cards will offer extra purchase security as a cardholder extra though.
                  "Purchase protection insurance" is often a free insurance that will cover goods bought against accidental damage and theft for usually up to 100 days after the purchase was made.
                  In the end...
                  Whilst the credit card companies are doing their bit for your security, make sure you do your bit too.
                  Whilst out and about make sure you hide your Chip & PIN number when paying at check outs, never write your Chip & PIN number down on a piece of paper and always watch out for unusual activity/people loitering about at cash points.
                  If you shop online make sure your virus protection software is running and up-to-date and your Internet connection is secure.
                  Don't give your credit / debit card or personal details away in an e-mail - even if you think it's your bank - it won't be! Banks will never ask for any of your personal details via e-mail - and if you’re unsure, simply phone them up from the telephone number on a recent card statement.
                  If you're eating out - try not to let anyone walk away with your credit or debit card - make sure they process the payment at the table, and if they need to take it to the till then go with them.
                  Check your statements! Either online or when you receive your statement each month - check each item and make sure they're all yours. If you see anything you don't recognise let your credit card issuer know as soon as possible - the sooner you report anything suspect the easier it will be to claim back any loses.
                  With all these measures in place, your personal identity, credit card details and peace of mind should remain intact.

                  http://www.credit-card-comparison-on...ity-fraud.html

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                  • #10
                    Re: Identity Protection Insurance

                    Gawd.... how many times have I let a waiter take my card to the till to process while I sit enjoying the end of the night's company!

                    Thank you!

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                    • #11
                      Re: Identity Protection Insurance

                      Originally posted by Caspar View Post
                      Gawd.... how many times have I let a waiter take my card to the till to process while I sit enjoying the end of the night's company!

                      Thank you!
                      Yes Caspar easily done---I never ever part with my card---the waiter can bring his portable wireless machine in most places now

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                      • #12
                        Re: Identity Protection Insurance

                        BBC Money Box (Radio 4) are covering this issue again today.

                        You can listen live at noon or a recording of it after BBC NEWS | Programmes | Moneybox


                        Card Protection Plan update
                        Money Box received scores of emails after last week's item on bank customers being sold ID theft insurance when they phone up to activate their credit or debit cards.

                        The product is sold by Card Protection Plan (CPP) which has been contracted to activate or record delivery of cards by many banks including Barclaycard, Natwest/RBS and Santander.

                        Faced with detailed allegations CPP admitted to Money Box this week that some of its staff may have wrongly told customers that their bank will not cover them if they are the victim of fraud.

                        However it said the vast majority of customers were satisfied with the product and the way it was sold to them.

                        Bob Howard's been following up on this story.

                        Related information:

                        CPP
                        UK Payments Administration
                        CIFAS

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                        • #13
                          Re: Identity Protection Insurance

                          I found this report today on AOL written by an Adrian Halliday regarding ID theft cover:


                          Many thousands of Britons were pressurised into buying expensive Payment Protection Insurance (PPI) plans they did not need. Now there's concern about a new insurance hard-sell - ID theft insurance being touted with the help of Santander and other big-name players.
                          Protection racket?

                          Costly ID theft insurance is often sold to bank customers when they attempt to activate a new credit or debit card. Many will be put through to a company called Card Protection Plan (CPP) which then attempts to flog them this utterly worthless and pricey insurance.

                          My lodger, Keith, experienced this. He was shocked that the CPP salesman told him he was directly liable for debts should someone steal his identity and take out credit in his name.

                          Keith wrote to Santander to complain after listening to the CPP sales spiel, stating clearly to them that a criminal act by a third party does not mean you are liable for the debts. "I believe the language used is designed to scare the less astute into taking out the policy," he wrote.

                          Santander responded with some smooth words. Keith then wrote to the Financial Services Authority (FSA) to warn them about his experience. Unbelievably to him, the FSA emailed him back saying it did not regulate on consumer credit cards.

                          Let down by the FSA

                          Take your complaint, the FSA said, to the Office of Fair Trading. What on earth, you wonder, is the point of a public financial services watchdog if it can't crack the whip on loans and credit cards?

                          Anway, we'll keep an eye on ID theft insurance. Santander, in an emailed statement to Daily Finance, acknowledged their relationship with CPP and claimed ID fraud was "relevant, cost effective and important, especially with the continued rise of ID fraud."

                          Well, er, make your own mind up. But remember, you are not liable for the criminal acts of third parties. Whatever anyone else tells you.

                          You're warned that CPP has relationships with Nationwide, Ulster Bank, Barclays, NatWest - and even John Lewis and Argos.

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