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  • #16
    Re: smith partner v arrow global limited

    Originally posted by smith View Post
    hi is there a letter to dispute debt to rossendales collect thanks

    letter of them to day demanding payment in full within 7 days tp prevent this matter proceeding further
    That depends on whether a CCA request has previously been sent on this account, because the usual dispute letter would refer to non-compliance with a CCA request.

    If it hasn't been sent, my suggestion would be to send one to Arrow, who own the account, with a copy to Rossendales, so they know to stay quiet till Arrow comply. :flypig:

    CCA request letter below. It should be sent recorded delivery with a PO for £1 and signed using your computer font rather than your real signature.

    Dear Sirs,

    Account or Reference No.:

    I hereby formally request a copy of my Consumer Credit Agreement, pursuant to s.77-79 of the Consumer Credit Act 1974 (CCA1974).I require you to provide me with a true copy, or reconstituted copy of the credit agreement relating to any account you deem to be mine, together with any other documentation the Act requires you to provide. I expect you to comply fully and properly with this request, within the statutory time limit (12 + 2 days).

    If it is your view that you are not the creditor, s.175 of the CCA1974 applies in the case of a simple assignment, and places a duty upon you to pass this request to the creditor. In the case of an absolute assignment, you are a creditor as defined by s.189. If you contend that you purchased the rights but not the duties of any agreement, you are reminded that s.189 of the Act is clear that an assignment is of both rights and duties. Your attention is drawn to ss.5(2), 3(b), 6 and 7 of the Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations 2008 (CPUTR).

    In line with recent OFT Guidance (issued Oct 2010) surrounding Unenforceability, I presume you're aware that the OFT has stipulated that 'sections 77-79 of the Consumer Credit Act 1974 outline the information creditors must provide to debtors under fixed-term, running account & Hire Agreements'. This simply means that under these sections a debtor can pay £1 to get:
    • a copy of their agreement
    • copies of some of the other documents mentioned in their agreement
    • a statement of account

    If this information is not provided within 12 working days the debt becomes unenforceable. This means a creditor cannot:
    • make the debtor pay the debt before they're supposed to
    • get a court judgment against the debtor

    So, in line with the OFT Guidance, and the Consumer Credit Act, please find attached my £1 payment, which is the statutory fee - note that these funds are not to be used for any other purpose. If you are unable to comply fully and properly with this request, you should confirm this in writing at the earliest opportunity, and certainly within the statutory time limit for compliance, and return the fee and then remove the incorrect entry from your systems.

    I do, expect the main actions to be dealt with, as matter of course, and look forward to hearing from you within the prescribed time-scales quoted however, in the meantime, I require that you clarify your position on this point as failure to do so, even by omission or lack of a response, will be regarded as an attempt to deliberately misrepresent or conceal the legal position regarding this matter to which an appropriate complaint will be made to the OFT.

    Yours faithfully,

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    • #17
      Re: smith partner v arrow global limited

      A senior moment (again!) - I shall have to retire.

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      • #18
        Re: smith partner v arrow global limited

        Originally posted by labman View Post
        A senior moment (again!) - I shall have to retire.
        No, please don't retire yet!

        Rossendales are so well known as bailiffs, people get scared just to see the name, I reckon they use that to their advantage, the cheeky sods! :sad:

        I just wanted to clarify in case the OP thought there were bailiffs on his case! :thumb:

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        • #19
          Re: smith partner v arrow global limited

          Originally posted by FlamingParrot View Post
          No, please don't retire yet!

          Rossendales are so well known as bailiffs, people get scared just to see the name, I reckon they use that to their advantage, the cheeky sods! :sad:

          I just wanted to clarify in case the OP thought there were bailiffs on his case! :thumb:

          after looking at letters on pc found theses

          CCA REQUEST was sent to


          27th April 2008 RED CASTLE RECOVERIES cca
          GROUND FLOOR
          RIDGEWORTH HOUSE
          LIVERPOOL GARDENS
          WORTHING
          BN11 1RS


          27th April 2008

          ..................................
          RED CASTLE RECOVERIES
          GROUND FLOOR
          RIDGEWORTH HOUSE
          LIVERPOOL GARDENS
          WORTHING
          BN11 1RS




          Ref No: rfl080041733
          Client Ref: 42806108


          REPLY FROM REDCASTLE RECOVERIES ( GOTHIA )




          2 nd june 2008


          dear sir / madam,


          OUR CLIENT: PHOENIX RECOVERIES UK LTD (KAYS)
          further to your recent letters,contents which have been duly noted.


          we can now confirm that we are unable to provide a copy of the signed agreement as requested ...we therfore return the £1 fee

          .................................................. .....................







          WARNING.
          THIS IS A REQUEST UNDER THE CIVIL PROCEDURE RULES.
          PLEASE DO NOT IGNORE.
          BRYAN CARTER &CO
          SOLICITORS
          DE HAVILLAND DRIVE
          WEBRIDGE
          SURRY
          KT13 0NT








          FREDRICKSON INTERNATIONAL LIMITED
          FIFTH FLOOR
          7-10 CHANDOS STREET
          LONDON
          W1G 9DQ


          YOU FAILED TO ACKNOWLEDGE MY LAST REQUEST
          6.10.2008


          all of the above have been sent in the past and all backed off

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          • #20
            Re: smith partner v arrow global limited

            post no 2 was sent to arrow no response as yet

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            • #21
              Re: smith partner v arrow global limited

              Maybe they're having some problems getting hold of paperwork.

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              • #22
                Re: smith partner v arrow global limited

                Originally posted by smith View Post
                after looking at letters on pc found theses

                CCA REQUEST was sent to

                27th April 2008 RED CASTLE RECOVERIES cca
                GROUND FLOOR
                RIDGEWORTH HOUSE
                LIVERPOOL GARDENS
                WORTHING
                BN11 1RS

                27th April 2008
                all of the above have been sent in the past and all backed off
                Originally posted by labman View Post
                Maybe they're having some problems getting hold of paperwork.
                As it's been 5 years and long before Arrow were on the case, I'd send the CCA request to Arrow again with a copy to Rosendales so they both back off when they are unable to supply anything. :thumb:

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