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  • A Life Sentence of Shame--One Woman's Story

    This story is from the Times.
    http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/l...cle3271208.ece

    From The Times
    January 30, 2008


    A life sentence of shame

    A reader’s experience of bankruptcy 18 years ago, thanks to her partner’s spendthrift ways, remains a secret and still fills her with a sense of failure





    Bankruptcy is something that happens to someone else. Perhaps someone you know? Then it becomes a relish of gossip, a wonder of scandal and Schadenfreude and gratitude that it isn’t you. But it was me. In 1989, and for the subsequent three long years, I was a bankrupt, a disgrace.
    I told my very immediate family, some of whom distanced themselves immediately, and two friends. No one else knew, and they still don’t.
    To the rest of the world, I carried on with the farce of my daily existence while everything around me had disintegrated. And even now, 15 years after I was discharged, it remains the skeleton in my cupboard.
    Please understand that until I was 40, I had never had a debt in my life or, indeed, any kind of credit, apart from a tiny mortgage in my thirties. I had always been careful with my money. I was respectable.
    He, though, was a Walter Mitty: a serial liar and a fantasist. But he was also the love of my life and truly, love is blind. I’m not the first and I won’t be the last. He had all the big ideas and I had all the money. Naive and gullible, infatuated, all caution swept away by his heady enthusiasm and silver tongue, I didn’t read the small print. Even when the bank suggested that I take independent advice before signing an unlimited guarantee. It didn’t take long. Less than three years later, overnight, I lost everything I had earned since I was 17.
    Twenty-five years of honest toil, decent salary, savings and investments – gone. House – gone. Along with my respectability. I think it was the respectability I minded most.
    Stupid? Yes. Dishonest? No, but the law does not distinguish between the two. I didn’t even have youth as an excuse. I was almost 42. A bankrupt. I felt dirty, untrustworthy.
    After an interview with the Official Receiver, I handed over my jewellery to be picked over and sold off cheaply at an insolvency auction, and then went home on the bus because I had had to surrender the keys of my car. I lied about the reasons for selling my house. My name and address went in Stubbs Gazette and the local paper as a bankrupt. I had to hope that no one from work read it. If people seemed more delighted than usual to see me, I suspected that it was a clumsy way of cheering me up. I hid from social contact and relatives.
    Three years later, I became a discharged bankrupt. I had expected to feel different, to feel free and happy, but all I felt was flat and worn out, a total anti-climax. I rang the Official Receiver to ask what happened next. “Nothing” was the answer. “You are free to resume your normal life.”
    I couldn’t remember what that was. I seemed to have been bankrupt for ever. Certainly the stench and the shame has taken its toll. Murderers come out of jail having served their sentence but they are still a murderer because the person they killed is still dead. I was discharged 15 years ago but I still owe those debts. I am technically still a bankrupt and there is no time in the future when I will not be one. A social leper. Dishonourable. I live with a life sentence of shame.
    My partner left me; I have been alone ever since. How do you say to a prospective new partner that you are an ex-bankrupt?
    I ended up moving house, and away from the area. I felt I had to move after someone I hardly knew sidled up to me in the street and said, with some Schadenfreude: “Saw your name in the paper, sorry about that.”
    I am sure it must puzzle my new neighbours that I drive a 24-year-old car, live in jeans and rarely go out. They accept me as a middle-aged spinster who lives with and looks after a very old mother, so they don’t look too closely. Now that I am retired, I am not very interesting.
    If I see my relatives now, I feel ashamed because I know I have let them down as well as myself and, although we all try to act normally, I feel I can still detect the pity and the anxiety, so I try to spare us all embarrassment and avoid them as much as possible. I have friends but, because they don’t know my shameful secret, inside I am isolated and lonely.
    Life after bankruptcy goes on, but it is never the same. Honour and self-respect have died and there is nothing to replace them. Self-esteem – there is none. Just a nagging fear of further failure and a floundering effort to live with the daily memory and the lifetime repercussions of my dishonourable past and shameful secret life – as a bankrupt.

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    Re: A Life Sentence of Shame--One Woman's Story

    That is so sad.
    Member of the Beagles £2 coin and small change savers clubs, both based in the Debt Forum:11:

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    • #3
      Re: A Life Sentence of Shame--One Woman's Story

      Sad, Yes. But I've got a different take on bankruptcy. I've known a few people who have had to declare bankruptcy due to business failure. And you know what? They are back in business (albeit more carefully) but they are doing very well. While debt and the process of bankruptcy is painful - life does begin again. And so it should! Bankruptcy is a serious process, but it does give you a fresh start (and a lesson learned). Learn from the mistakes - but once its over don't look back - look to the future.
      "The issue which has swept down the centuries
      and which will have to be fought sooner or later
      is the people versus the banks."

      [John Emerich Edward Dalberg Acton] (1834-1902), First Baron Acton of Aldenham

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      • #4
        Re: A Life Sentence of Shame--One Woman's Story

        I commented on this story a few weeks ago but I can't stop thinking about it. I just read the story on a previous thread where a young lad committed suicide after getting into a lot of debt.

        It seems to me that it is highly irresponsible of The Times to publish a story like this. Its almost as if they were trying the drive home a strong message to their readers of "bankruptcy is bad - do everything you can to avoid it or you will live a life of eternal shame" - which is not at all true by the way.

        I realise this is a third party story rather than the Times itself publishing it - but really? You would think they could have balanced the story with practical, factual information. Instead the reader is left with possibly the most negative view of bankruptcy ever concieved. One is left wondering just what the editors were thinking.
        "The issue which has swept down the centuries
        and which will have to be fought sooner or later
        is the people versus the banks."

        [John Emerich Edward Dalberg Acton] (1834-1902), First Baron Acton of Aldenham

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        • #5
          Re: A Life Sentence of Shame--One Woman's Story

          I thought the story was an incredible journey for a woman who still feels the emotional pain of bankruptcy which was caused by her falling for a guy who she loved but ultimately destroyed her financially. It was about the stigma of your name in the paper which we all read in the local rag don't we. Money is an emotional subject and for her, there seemed to be the psychological scar so many years after the fact.

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          • #6
            Re: A Life Sentence of Shame--One Woman's Story

            Originally posted by alecmac18 View Post
            Sad, Yes. But I've got a different take on bankruptcy. I've known a few people who have had to declare bankruptcy due to business failure. And you know what? They are back in business (albeit more carefully) but they are doing very well. While debt and the process of bankruptcy is painful - life does begin again. And so it should! Bankruptcy is a serious process, but it does give you a fresh start (and a lesson learned). Learn from the mistakes - but once its over don't look back - look to the future.
            The problem for many who declare themselves bankrupt is that, for one reason or another (usually a lack of funds) they fail to take expert advice & as a result, as some are now finding, it can come back to bite you years later long after you think you have put it behind you.

            I would never, ever recommend bankruptcy to anyone who couldn't afford the couple of hundred quid to seek expert advice

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            • #7
              Re: A Life Sentence of Shame--One Woman's Story

              I do have sympathy for the way she was conned out of her money and forced into bankruptcy.

              But hey to still be ashamed 17 years later sorry no sympathy, its not the black plauge you know.

              I have been bankrupt, i know many others who have MOST sucessful busieness men/women have been bankrupt. It is nothing to be ashamed of you tried thats all that matters. Start again and you will not make the same mistakes again.

              I think really the story should be about the way she was deceived out of the money etc and tell us more why she had to go bankrupt obviously because of her partner. So i feel this more relates to failure and mistrust in a realtionship than in business.

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              • #8
                Re: A Life Sentence of Shame--One Woman's Story

                Originally posted by helpmeclaim View Post
                I do have sympathy for the way she was conned out of her money and forced into bankruptcy.

                But hey to still be ashamed 17 years later sorry no sympathy, its not the black plauge you know.
                I agree completely with you.

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                • #9
                  Re: A Life Sentence of Shame--One Woman's Story

                  Its a terrible thing that happened to that women,but she needs to step out of the sympathy room and get on with her life,she has been given the chance,we all make mistakes we are all in the same boat in debt,but we need to move on even if its slowly,I know when I am debt free I will be rejoicing and celebrating that I am FREE.

                  This wome is free now she needs to stop the PITY PARTY and move on life is too short

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                  • #10
                    Re: A Life Sentence of Shame--One Woman's Story

                    Originally posted by Nattie View Post
                    This story is from the Times.
                    http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/l...cle3271208.ece

                    From The Times
                    January 30, 2008


                    A life sentence of shame

                    A reader’s experience of bankruptcy 18 years ago, thanks to her partner’s spendthrift ways, remains a secret and still fills her with a sense of failure





                    Bankruptcy is something that happens to someone else. Perhaps someone you know? Then it becomes a relish of gossip, a wonder of scandal and Schadenfreude and gratitude that it isn’t you. But it was me. In 1989, and for the subsequent three long years, I was a bankrupt, a disgrace.
                    I told my very immediate family, some of whom distanced themselves immediately, and two friends. No one else knew, and they still don’t.
                    To the rest of the world, I carried on with the farce of my daily existence while everything around me had disintegrated. And even now, 15 years after I was discharged, it remains the skeleton in my cupboard.
                    Please understand that until I was 40, I had never had a debt in my life or, indeed, any kind of credit, apart from a tiny mortgage in my thirties. I had always been careful with my money. I was respectable.
                    He, though, was a Walter Mitty: a serial liar and a fantasist. But he was also the love of my life and truly, love is blind. I’m not the first and I won’t be the last. He had all the big ideas and I had all the money. Naive and gullible, infatuated, all caution swept away by his heady enthusiasm and silver tongue, I didn’t read the small print. Even when the bank suggested that I take independent advice before signing an unlimited guarantee. It didn’t take long. Less than three years later, overnight, I lost everything I had earned since I was 17.
                    Twenty-five years of honest toil, decent salary, savings and investments – gone. House – gone. Along with my respectability. I think it was the respectability I minded most.
                    Stupid? Yes. Dishonest? No, but the law does not distinguish between the two. I didn’t even have youth as an excuse. I was almost 42. A bankrupt. I felt dirty, untrustworthy.
                    After an interview with the Official Receiver, I handed over my jewellery to be picked over and sold off cheaply at an insolvency auction, and then went home on the bus because I had had to surrender the keys of my car. I lied about the reasons for selling my house. My name and address went in Stubbs Gazette and the local paper as a bankrupt. I had to hope that no one from work read it. If people seemed more delighted than usual to see me, I suspected that it was a clumsy way of cheering me up. I hid from social contact and relatives.
                    Three years later, I became a discharged bankrupt. I had expected to feel different, to feel free and happy, but all I felt was flat and worn out, a total anti-climax. I rang the Official Receiver to ask what happened next. “Nothing” was the answer. “You are free to resume your normal life.”
                    I couldn’t remember what that was. I seemed to have been bankrupt for ever. Certainly the stench and the shame has taken its toll. Murderers come out of jail having served their sentence but they are still a murderer because the person they killed is still dead. I was discharged 15 years ago but I still owe those debts. I am technically still a bankrupt and there is no time in the future when I will not be one. A social leper. Dishonourable. I live with a life sentence of shame.
                    My partner left me; I have been alone ever since. How do you say to a prospective new partner that you are an ex-bankrupt?
                    I ended up moving house, and away from the area. I felt I had to move after someone I hardly knew sidled up to me in the street and said, with some Schadenfreude: “Saw your name in the paper, sorry about that.”
                    I am sure it must puzzle my new neighbours that I drive a 24-year-old car, live in jeans and rarely go out. They accept me as a middle-aged spinster who lives with and looks after a very old mother, so they don’t look too closely. Now that I am retired, I am not very interesting.
                    If I see my relatives now, I feel ashamed because I know I have let them down as well as myself and, although we all try to act normally, I feel I can still detect the pity and the anxiety, so I try to spare us all embarrassment and avoid them as much as possible. I have friends but, because they don’t know my shameful secret, inside I am isolated and lonely.
                    Life after bankruptcy goes on, but it is never the same. Honour and self-respect have died and there is nothing to replace them. Self-esteem – there is none. Just a nagging fear of further failure and a floundering effort to live with the daily memory and the lifetime repercussions of my dishonourable past and shameful secret life – as a bankrupt.
                    your story made me cry , and scared me as lm worried l may have a similar outcome please dont feel ashamed, you have done nothing wrong , you trusted a special person and he let you down badly ,

                    be kind to yourself lift your head and be proud, you have survived, you are special and no one can take that away from you

                    take care
                    xx
                    im going kicking and screaming all the way

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                    • #11
                      Re: A Life Sentence of Shame--One Woman's Story

                      Bankruptcy, 17 years ago and still feeling ashamed. I have a feeling she should be seeing a shrink. More likely ashamed of the circumstances that put her there. I agree, The Times should be reporting how bankruptcy helps the majority to start living again.

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                      • #12
                        Re: A Life Sentence of Shame--One Woman's Story

                        I think the shame is not because of the bankruptcy itself but the cause of it. A relationship that went sour, and her normal sense of what she would normally do being taken away from her. She was betrayed by a man who took her money and ran. She let her guard down and was betrayed and removed of her dignity(jewellery handed over to the OR to sell for a cheap price).
                        I think the loss of trust is perhaps the worst thing she is suffering from but I understand why she feels that way, even if it may not be justified in my mind.

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