You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

[leclerc]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

Of course you have to pay a fee leclerc its business

Its wishy washy information the D&B site gets fees because you pay to see the information because the reference numbers quoted are specifically their own and not companies house corporation numbers. D&B, imho, is simply making money out of those silly enough to be too curious and pay money. I won't cos I can do a webcheck on companies house. I want better evidence than supposition and generalisations which come from some of the arguments given when people say that the local government is a private enterprise.

[salsmoss]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

Its wishy washy information the D&B site gets fees because you pay to see the information because the reference numbers quoted are specifically their own and not companies house corporation numbers. D&B, imho, is simply making money out of those silly enough to be too curious and pay money. I won't cos I can do a webcheck on companies house. I want better evidence than supposition and generalisations which come from some of the arguments given when people say that the local government is a private enterprise.

Parking tickets the same. just keep searching you will find it, which council area you from

[leclerc]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

Parking tickets the same. just keep searching you will find it, which council area you from

Cambridgeshire

[salsmoss]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

Cambridge city council search it trading as a school, and Cambridgeshire county council

[leclerc]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

Cambridge city council search it trading as a school

Ok, done that, what's next?

[salsmoss]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

Oh god, search for a company or business thats it you done it, its a company a business and trading under various names what else do you need.

[salsmoss]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

Check out your council on parking charges they still use the word fine, a court case was won using the bill of rights thus setting all of us a precedent as fines before conviction are illigal and void, thats why they changed from fine to charge but not on the sites they havent http://www.cambridgeshire.gov.uk/tra.../Payingpcn.htm if you ignore a parking fine then you agree to pay it thats why they give you notice to respond within 48 hrs, if you dont then you accept but like i do NO THANK YOU its all over and they dont like it once you stop the bailiff what else can they do. works for me all the time for about 3 years now.

[leclerc]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

Check out your council on parking charges they still use the word fine, a court case was won using the bill of rights thus setting all of us a precedent as fines before conviction are illigal and void, thats why they changed from fine to charge but not on the sites they havent http://www.cambridgeshire.gov.uk/tra.../Payingpcn.htm if you ignore a parking fine then you agree to pay it thats why they give you notice to respond within 48 hrs, if you dont then you accept but like i do NO THANK YOU its all over and they dont like it once you stop the bailiff what else can they do. works for me all the time for about 3 years now.

I asked you for an example of my local council being a private company......am still waiting..........and becoming impatient. I have already stated that with the argument you are giving, I have no problem with but you have stated that councils are private companies. Evidence please?

[gravytrain]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

I don't really think that the fact that enforcement authorities have run out of options and been unable to collect a debt proves anything anyway, does it. This scenario happens all the time with consumer debt for instance, where there most definitely is a contract.

I am perfectly willing to examine any theory regarding the way our system operates Practically though for any such theory to be worthwhile don't the people with the power have to agree #?
How much success for instance have people had by standing up in court and giving the FOL defense and stating they are not liable ?

I would suggest it would be a similar amount to those who stated that they were a Klingon warrior and asked for trial by combat.

My point is that unless the people in charge believe what you say it is by enlarge just words. Although entertaining.

[salsmoss]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

Its on a plate for you leclerc can you not see it, i dont know nothing about your council all i know is that their registered as a company/business and what do companies or businesses do? They trade.

[salsmoss]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

Gravytrain, we can argue all day long but i want one thing cleared up first, i am not a freeman on the land although i have read about it and to me i wouldnt touch it with a barge post, timothy of the family smith, copyrighting your name etc etc no thank you dont believe in such stupidity but this i have tried and it works, in regards to parking fines, companies/businesses are all registered unless of course your self employed which is now self assessment

[leclerc]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

Its on a plate for you leclerc can you not see it, i dont know nothing about your council all i know is that their registered as a company/business and what do companies or businesses do? They trade.

Trading name that is on companies house please.......

[gravytrain]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

Gravytrain, we can argue all day long but i want one thing cleared up first, i am not a freeman on the land although i have read about it and to me i wouldnt touch it with a barge post, timothy of the family smith, copyrighting your name etc etc no thank you dont believe in such stupidity but this i have tried and it works, in regards to parking fines, companies/businesses are all registered unless of course your self employed which is now self assessment

Sory it was all the stuff about maritime law and the double meaning of terms like "birth", had me confused. I thought that this was FOL doctrine.

In any case, regarding parking on council controlled land, please be patient and explain why a community cannot authorize, via its mutual consent, an authority to control usage of their property.

[leclerc]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

Its on a plate for you leclerc can you not see it, i dont know nothing about your council all i know is that their registered as a company/business and what do companies or businesses do? They trade.

It's not registered as a company or a business, I went to the link and I searched companies house for the first line of the address given to the left of the link and there is absolutely nothing registered on companies house. Please use the KISS method.

Keep
It
Simple
Stupid

Clearly I am the last S so you have to break it down even more and not simply say it's in front of your eyes cos clearly I have still missed something that is verifiable on companies house.

[CleverClogs]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

Well I just searched for 3 councils in my area and they are not businesses.

They're not charities or associations, are they?

Isn't Parliament a business?