You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

[salsmoss]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

higgins v sefton council

[FORCEOFONE]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

higgins v sefton council

This is what angers me. Misguided individuals who try and misrepresent legal cases. This has been bundled up as a court case but it is nothing more than a parking appeals tribunal, NOT A COURT OF LAW.

The Adjudicator rejected this argument and dismissed the appeal. His decision is attached in full.

The National Parking Adjudication Service is NOT a Court of Law and Adjudicators appointed by NPAS do NOT hold the status of High Court Judges.

SO WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO LINK THIS AS A COURT CASE WHEN IT IS NOT

i am still waiting for a court case that has been successful in a court of law using this style of a defence

[gravytrain]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

higgins v sefton council

This is the hearing i linked on post 380 the claim was thrown out, on the grounds that the BOR act had no bearing on the enforcement of a civil penalty, due to the 1991 ACT.

?????

[salsmoss]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

Listen forceofone open your eyes to the fraud thats all around you, the adjudicator is part of the system and gets paid handsomely, if the bill of rights state it is illegal and void then its illegal and void, you dont think the adjudicator is going to set that for the council to lose are you and even if he did the council would have to find other ways of fineing you like walking to slow on a public pavement, legislation is there to take everything away and profit from it.

[salsmoss]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

This is the hearing i linked on post 380 the claim was thrown out, on the grounds that the BOR act had no bearing on the enforcement of a civil penalty, due to the 1991 ACT.

?????

There you have it, legislation to take your right away

[FORCEOFONE]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

That is why you now have Civil Penalties instead of FINES

Civil penalties are statutory and have nothing to do with the BOR 1689

They are not Fines but

CIVIL PENALTIES

i am still waiting for a court case that has been successful in a court of law using this style of a defence

[salsmoss]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

That is why you now have Civil Penalties instead of FINES

Civil penalties are statutory and have nothing to do with the BOR 1689

Only by consent

[gravytrain]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

There you have it, legislation to take your right away

You mean the right to get a fine and receive a criminal record ?

[FORCEOFONE]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

How can you say by consent, it is statutory

i give up

[FORCEOFONE]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

Only by consent

How can you say by consent, it is statutory

i give up

[salsmoss]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

How can you say by consent, it is statutory

i give up

I didnt say it theresa may mp did "the way we police is by consent."

[gravytrain]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

I am a bit of a loss to understand the nature of the argument here. Parking restrictions have to be enforced otherwise there would be bedlam, and no one would be able to move, surely that is obvious.

If they are not enforced through the criminal legal system then they must be enforced via a civil one.

How else would something be enforced other than issuing a fine or penalty, I suppose they could bring back the stocks.

[leclerc]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

I didnt say it theresa may mp did "the way we police is by consent."

"The way we police in Britain is not through use of water cannon," she said. "The way we police in Britain is through consent of communities."

The full quote which she said in 2011 in response to a question about the use of water cannon on rioters.

Link to article is here: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...er-cannon.html

[salsmoss]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

I am a bit of a loss to understand the nature of the argument here. Parking restrictions have to be enforced otherwise there would be bedlam, and no one would be able to move, surely that is obvious.

If they are not enforced through the criminal legal system then they must be enforced via a civil one.

How else would something be enforced other than issuing a fine or penalty, I suppose they could bring back the stocks.

If you park in the middle of a road and cause another driver to suffer then you will be arrested, common sense is what you need if i want to stop outside my home where the council have put double yelow lines then that is not going to stop me, i will park there but i will not hold up traffic or pedestrians, but they still fine you which is illegal and void regardless of the councils partner the adjudicator. Statutes legislation can all be repealed to suit them.

[salsmoss]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

"The way we police in Britain is not through use of water cannon," she said. "The way we police in Britain is through consent of communities."

The full quote which she said in 2011 in response to a question about the use of water cannon on rioters.

Link to article is here: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...er-cannon.html

Thats correct, and im from a community too and i dont consent to being fined for parking outside my home. Just like the rioters didnt consent to being water cannoned.

The rioter must of been warned to dissburse or they will be watercannoned, if the rioters do not move then they consent to being watercannoned, simple as that,