You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

[salsmoss]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

Why would parking in the middle of the road be such an imposition, you could go around. You see you contradict yourself, you are making rules based what you consider reasonable. The yellow lines outside your house may well be to avoid traffic being disrupted by people parking, people travelling up and down your road may consider them as being totally reasonable.

Is iut more fair that just you decide what is fair or that we all decide s a community and make laws to enforce our wishes.

The street i live in has plenty of room for articulated lorries my friend, but the council use it for financial gain as we all park outside with no garages, plenty of room for articulated lorries coming from both directions a very wide road.

[leclerc]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

Why would parking in the middle of the road be such an imposition, you could go around. You see you contradict yourself, you are making rules based what you consider reasonable. The yellow lines outside your house may well be to avoid traffic being disrupted by people parking.

Is iut more fair that just you decide what is fair or that we all decide s a community and make laws to enforce our wishes.

Or to prevent an obstruction if the street is narrow and there is parking on the other side of the street....

[salsmoss]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

There is an agreement in the community, would you steal from the sweet shop if you knew youd be locked up for it or fined £600 and compensation for £20

[gravytrain]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

If you park in the middle of a road and cause another driver to suffer then you will be arrested, common sense is what you need if i want to stop outside my home where the council have put double yelow lines then that is not going to stop me, i will park there but i will not hold up traffic or pedestrians, but they still fine you which is illegal and void regardless of the councils partner the adjudicator. Statutes legislation can all be repealed to suit them.

Why would parking in the middle of the road be such an imposition, you could go around. You see you contradict yourself, you are making rules based what you consider reasonable. The yellow lines outside your house may well be to avoid traffic being disrupted by people parking, people travelling up and down your road may consider them as being totally reasonable.

Is iut more fair that just you decide what is fair or that we all decide s a community and make laws to enforce our wishes.

[leclerc]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

Thats correct, and im from a community too and i dont consent to being fined for parking outside my home.

What if there is not a consensus in your community? What happens then? Remember, the MP's that are elected are from the communities and many a time they do not have a 100% voter count so that means that despite the non consensus in the community, there are still representatives who make laws who represent the community from which we all belong.

[salsmoss]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

"The way we police in Britain is not through use of water cannon," she said. "The way we police in Britain is through consent of communities."

The full quote which she said in 2011 in response to a question about the use of water cannon on rioters.

Link to article is here: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...er-cannon.html

Thats correct, and im from a community too and i dont consent to being fined for parking outside my home. Just like the rioters didnt consent to being water cannoned.

The rioter must of been warned to dissburse or they will be watercannoned, if the rioters do not move then they consent to being watercannoned, simple as that,

[salsmoss]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

I am a bit of a loss to understand the nature of the argument here. Parking restrictions have to be enforced otherwise there would be bedlam, and no one would be able to move, surely that is obvious.

If they are not enforced through the criminal legal system then they must be enforced via a civil one.

How else would something be enforced other than issuing a fine or penalty, I suppose they could bring back the stocks.

If you park in the middle of a road and cause another driver to suffer then you will be arrested, common sense is what you need if i want to stop outside my home where the council have put double yelow lines then that is not going to stop me, i will park there but i will not hold up traffic or pedestrians, but they still fine you which is illegal and void regardless of the councils partner the adjudicator. Statutes legislation can all be repealed to suit them.

[leclerc]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

I didnt say it theresa may mp did "the way we police is by consent."

"The way we police in Britain is not through use of water cannon," she said. "The way we police in Britain is through consent of communities."

The full quote which she said in 2011 in response to a question about the use of water cannon on rioters.

Link to article is here: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...er-cannon.html

[gravytrain]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

I am a bit of a loss to understand the nature of the argument here. Parking restrictions have to be enforced otherwise there would be bedlam, and no one would be able to move, surely that is obvious.

If they are not enforced through the criminal legal system then they must be enforced via a civil one.

How else would something be enforced other than issuing a fine or penalty, I suppose they could bring back the stocks.

[salsmoss]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

How can you say by consent, it is statutory

i give up

I didnt say it theresa may mp did "the way we police is by consent."

[FORCEOFONE]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

Only by consent

How can you say by consent, it is statutory

i give up

[FORCEOFONE]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

How can you say by consent, it is statutory

i give up

[gravytrain]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

There you have it, legislation to take your right away

You mean the right to get a fine and receive a criminal record ?

[salsmoss]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

That is why you now have Civil Penalties instead of FINES

Civil penalties are statutory and have nothing to do with the BOR 1689

Only by consent

[FORCEOFONE]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

That is why you now have Civil Penalties instead of FINES

Civil penalties are statutory and have nothing to do with the BOR 1689

They are not Fines but

CIVIL PENALTIES

i am still waiting for a court case that has been successful in a court of law using this style of a defence