You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

[GO84]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

Salsmoss, I'm not entirely sure where you're coming from (I don't know if your beliefs are like that of the bloke on youtube I was going on about earlier) but when people say things like that I think it sounds far too exaggerated. Not entirely untrue but not the real truth. Yes, it can easily feel like things revolve around money too much at times but I really do not think that there truly is something sinister connecting everything and deliberately leading us toward some kind of Orwellian dystopia. The world is not right but I think all the bad things happen because people clash against each other, not because there's a global conspiracy etc. The people who go on about that kind of thing, to me, do not sound like they are thinking for themselves at all or properly understand the reasons behind things they don't like. They call people who conform sheep, but I think they're just being sheep themselves, but in another herd. Like a herd made of black sheep.

[salsmoss]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

I will let you think about it for yourself, just keep your eyes open and look around and you will see it as plain as light, everyone wants your cash to stay in business, banks robbing customers accounts, councils into scrap metal dealing, police on the spot fines but the court processing centres will tell you to go to the police for details, prisoners running prisons in the scrap industry-welding-fruit and veg-in fact anything you can think of, prisoners being sent down for almost anything small, prisoners are now being told to work harder or lose prison perks, large companies such as tesco, argos, asda all using workfair free labour, companies selling your details for cash and it goes on and on. Open your eyes its getting worse every day.

And its going to get worse, something not quite right in our world is there.

[GO84]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

everything is privateised, why do you think that when visiting your dr for say a lump you get put on a waiting list, if you have no money or health insurance, on the other hand if you have insurance you get sorted straight away, think about it

Don't be so daft, that's just switching from the NHS (free but long waiting lists) to the private healthcare system (more efficient but will cost you) They are separate systems. You can't go to an NHS doctor and jump to the front of the queue by having private health insurance, you'd just be able to go to a different doctor at a different place.

[leclerc]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

I have to admit defeat, this thread is way too intellectual for myself. I have webchecked my underpants for the local county council running a business in them, but even they were no where to be seen. I have see the "debt as money" video(do not even have to click the youtube video for that).

However, if we are saying that local government act like businesses then yep I completely agree on the basis of tendering processes so that it should allegedly offer value for money for us lot, the taxpayers. As for the rest, I need a lie down

[FORCEOFONE]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

Also checkout your police force, they also amke money by on the spot fines and you can now be billed by the chief super not a court

The chief superintendent has no authority to issue civil penalties

Civil penalties are imposed through delegated legislation or statutory instrument by the parent statutory Act of parliament.

The chief superintendent cant just issue these civil penalties on his own merit

All civil penalties have an appeals process

NOW, i am still waiting on a single case of a defence using common law jurisdiction that has been successful in a court of law

No waffle please, just facts

[gravytrain]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

The councils changed from parking fines to parking charge notice after someone won a court case using the bill of rights 1688 which states-
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/aep/Wi...2/introduction
Grants of Forfeitures.
That all Grants and Promises of Fines and Forfeitures of particular persons before Conviction are illegall and void.

Changes to legislation:

There are currently no known outstanding effects for the Bill of Rights [1688],

Not found any cases won on this, found a few like this that were thrown out

http://www.trafficpenaltytribunal.go...s_Act_1689.pdf


The Adjudicator rejected this argument and dismissed the appeal. His decision is
attached in full. However, we have summarised the key points made by the
Adjudicator in arriving at this decision.
• The 1689 Act is relevant, but there is no conflict between it and the
decriminalised parking scheme brought in by the Road Traffic Act 1991.
• The intention of the 1689 Act was to ensure a person has a right of challenge
to any financial penalty imposed on him or her.
• When a PCN is issued the Road Traffic Act 1991 imposes a statutory duty on
DPE councils to consider and respond to representations against the issue of a
Notice to Owner which must be issued before a Penalty Charge can be
enforced, and a right of appeal to an independent tribunal against the issue of
the PCN if the council rejects those representations.
• The Road Traffic Act 1991 does, therefore, provide a right of challenge to the
imposition of a Penalty Charge and is consistent with the 1689 Act.
• The High Court has considered the Road Traffic Act 1991, and the powers of
Parking Adjudicators and did not raise any issue in relation to the 1689 Act.

[Somecamel]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

When you really start to look at what is happening behind the scenes it will blow you mind. As stated in a previous post I did have a look at some of the FMOTL stuff when I had an incident back in December 2012, In fact I was one for about a week or so:P

I started looking at things from a different view point trying to understand what was really going in the world. I started with looking at money and how it is created by the banks, if you have some free time have a look at this youtube video which makes it very easy to understand - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqvKjsIxT_8

I consider myself a 'semi' intelligent man who's not afraid to question when I think something is wrong. If I'm correct in my understandings it's bloody outrageous what is going on.

It's really important to do your own research and make up your own mind, I'm not happy living in a world where the people who are meant to protect us are only out to milk money out of us.

Have a look at the Bretton woods system signed in July 1944 in America and how Nixon terminated the Gold Standard in August 1971- The cynic in me says it was terminated because they had created so much Fiat money, there wasn't enough gold to back it up. It wasn't that long ago that Germany wanted their gold back from America, the problem is they don't have it.

Have a look at how the United Kingdom is registered on the Securities Exchange Commision, we the people are the collateral, Our Birth (BERTH:P) certificates are owned by the crown and used as securities as we no longer use Gold.

There are some crackpots out there, I still can't quite get my head around David Icke but a lot of people out there are waking up to the corruption.

By refusing to pay a parking ticket is one way of sticking two fingers up to the establishment albeit a small one so let him get on with it.

[jon1965]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

I think Salsmoss is getting rather confused between a service and an organisation. Now I may not like the way this world is going but the theory was that if a council use your council tax to pay a private company to empty your bins they will be more efficient and therefore cheaper than if the corrupt council staff do it and there is some truth in that. That does not make the council a company
Equally we have some prisons that are run by the the private sector and some not

[jon1965]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

I cannot say I've ever had a lump (of anything) from my doctor.

Did you never get your sugar lump with your Polio booster on it?

[salsmoss]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

well there ya go then business as usual eh

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

Thank goodness for that, but get yourself health insurance like bupa my freind you never know when you might need it

Thank you, but I won't.

My late mother had BUPA health insurance. They paid for her first course of cancer therapy, then refused when it returned.

[salsmoss]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

I cannot say I've ever had a lump (of anything) from my doctor.

Thank goodness for that, but get yourself health insurance like bupa my freind you never know when you might need it

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

when visiting your dr for say a lump

I cannot say I've ever had a lump (of anything) from my doctor.

[salsmoss]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

everything is privateised, why do you think that when visiting your dr for say a lump you get put on a waiting list, if you have no money or health insurance, on the other hand if you have insurance you get sorted straight away, think about it, its all commercial business now if a bank can charge you for any mistake you do then you can charge them also for any mistake they do, you can charge anyone for any wrong they do against you like telephone call but you must first give them notice or a warning

[salsmoss]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

west yorkshire police search it