You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

[Somecamel]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

The 'Act' of the Magna Carta perhaps most of which has been repealed,

You have now answered your own question

The Magna Carta itself, with the Bill of Rights of 1689 is a constitutional document

Those documents cannot be changed, but legislation can be that interprets those fundamental ideals can

Habeas Corpus as an example, it is not mentioned in the Magna Carta, (40) but was cemented into English law as to the bill of rights 1689

Habeas Corpus Act 1679

I didn't have a question, you were the one asking me to prove it.

[gravytrain]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

A law does not have to be repealed to fall out of usage or be disregarded, look up desuetude. Many laws have never been repealed but are no longer relevant or binding in the courts.

Here is one
It is legal for a male to urinate in public, as long it is on the rear wheel of his motor vehicle and his right hand is on the vehicle.

[Somecamel]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

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The only part of Magna Carta that still has lawful authority is Habeas Corpus WITH

39. No free man shall be seized or imprisoned, or stripped of his rights or possessions, or outlawed or exiled, or deprived of his standing in any other way, nor will we proceed with force against him, or send others to do so, except by the lawful judgment of his equals or by the law of the land.

40. To no one will we sell, to no one deny or delay right or justice. (HABEAS CORPUS)


YOU WILL HAVE TO DO BETTER THAN 1215, OR EVEN 1689

I get the impression that whatever I say to you will not be good enough and happy to leave it at that, if you are here for intelligent adult debate please continue. I have spoken with respect at all times.

As stated in previous posts, I am here to question the status quo

[FORCEOFONE]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

The 'Act' of the Magna Carta perhaps most of which has been repealed,

You have now answered your own question

The Magna Carta itself, with the Bill of Rights of 1689 is a constitutional document

Those documents cannot be changed, but legislation can be that interprets those fundamental ideals can

Habeas Corpus as an example, it is not mentioned in the Magna Carta, (40) but was cemented into English law as to the bill of rights 1689

Habeas Corpus Act 1679

[Somecamel]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

The 'Act' of the Magna Carta perhaps most of which has been repealed, but the actual magna carta itself is our constitutional right so it cannot be repealed by an act of parliament, it has to be agreed by us.

[FORCEOFONE]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

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The only part of Magna Carta that still has lawful authority is Habeas Corpus WITH

39. No free man shall be seized or imprisoned, or stripped of his rights or possessions, or outlawed or exiled, or deprived of his standing in any other way, nor will we proceed with force against him, or send others to do so, except by the lawful judgment of his equals or by the law of the land.

40. To no one will we sell, to no one deny or delay right or justice. (HABEAS CORPUS)


YOU WILL HAVE TO DO BETTER THAN 1215, OR EVEN 1689

[Somecamel]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

Please, please

Tell me how you can just "opt out" of government statutes (law)

I am soon to qualify with a law degree, so i feel qualified to make reasoning's on how the law works in England

Article 61 of the Magna Carta enables people to 'opt out' of being governed if we feel we are being governed unjustly, very simply give 40 days notice to the queen and if it is not remedied you can enter what is called Lawful rebellion.

Being 'nearly' qualified with a law degree I would have assumed you have read this?

[gravytrain]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

I think we would all like to "opt out" of various inconvenient things in life.

Unfortunately if you are going 80 MPH in a 30 zone and you get stopped, opting out of the law may not be an op-tion.

[FORCEOFONE]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

Please, please

Tell me how you can just "opt out" of government statutes (law)

I am soon to qualify with a law degree, so i feel qualified to make reasoning's on how the law works in England

[Somecamel]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

This is not just me, but most of the forum members, we are all saying the same thing

YOU CANNOT "OPT OUT" "CONTRACT OUT" OF STATUTORY OBLIGATIONS

Let us ignore all these internet links and get back to reality,

Please back up your assumptions using established statutory or case law

Not any individuals misguided subjective interpretation of legislation

We can go around and around in circles here, you have your opinion and I have mine, I am prepared to be proven wrong and my job of proving myself right is going to be a lot harder than your job of proving me wrong.

If you consent to be governed by Statutes then you are right, if you don't consent I am right, the rule of law is given by consent.

I'm not a lawyer but I am troubled by the world we live in and there has never been any harm in questioning authority (unless you were a Jew in Nazi Occupied Poland.)

I urge anyone that is interested to do their own research and make their own minds up.

We are not going to be given the answers on a plate I'm afraid.

[FORCEOFONE]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

This is not just me, but most of the forum members, we are all saying the same thing

YOU CANNOT "OPT OUT" "CONTRACT OUT" OF STATUTORY OBLIGATIONS

Let us ignore all these internet links and get back to reality,

Please back up your assumptions using established statutory or case law

Not any individuals misguided subjective interpretation of legislation

[Somecamel]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

http://www.youtube.com/user/WhiteRabbitTrust

[FORCEOFONE]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

please give us a link then

[Somecamel]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

i must admit the parking fines issue is interesting and is just fun and games which i must admit i am on the side of if you can get away with it i will but the the money debt banking and government bits are very interesting is there any good threads on these subjects

In respect of the forum and the basis that the purpose of the forum is to help with 'legal' remedy, maybe continuing discussing potential 'freeman/common-law' is not in keeping. But if you are interested in the debt and banking side search on youtube for White Rabbit trust. It's a guy called Simon, used to be a banker for bearings I think, his videos are pretty eye opening.

[MIKE770]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

If the counil issue you a Penalty charge = pay

If a private parking charge notice then you have a case not to pay, has been stated so many times in papers/threads?