You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

[suffering]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

i must admit the parking fines issue is interesting and is just fun and games which i must admit i am on the side of if you can get away with it i will but the the money debt banking and government bits are very interesting is there any good threads on these subjects

[bizzybob]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

The only ones you could ignore are Parking Charge Notices which are a an attempt to pervert of the Law of Contract, using unlawful civil penalties and intimodation by the likes of Parking Eye, where all they can ask for is consequential loss if they go to court and usually fail when it is found their £80 PCN is an unlawful civil penalty with all the compulsion of an invoice.

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

I am struggling with what I'm reading here, though I confess to not having read anything like the whole thread.

However, for anyone in any doubt, Penalty Charge Notices are legally issued fines and should be paid. I'm afraid that one person getting away with failing to pay them might land a lot of other posters in trouble thinking they can do the same.

It is totally irresponsible in my opinion to allow something which could result in many other posters falling foul of the authorities and the law to be posted so openly.

Legislation is there for a reason - some we agree with, others we don't. We cannot pick and choose which parts we concur with and which we feel we can ignore without facing the penalty for ignoring them. If you believe you have found a hole in the system, feel free to exploit it, but please don't encourage other members on here to do the same. I guarantee most will have their lives made a total misery if they ignore PCN's.

[gravytrain]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

I'm on a different wavelength to you guys.

Different planet i think

[Somecamel]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

I'm on a different wavelength to you guys.

[leclerc]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

Yes and Guess who's being used as that security:P

It's been set up by HMT and UKFI. Not sure if you guys are aware but RBS Group also own banks in the US and we own almost all of the bank so that might be the reason why........

[gravytrain]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

Well im still here after many many tickets unpaid

And what would you expect, would you want the law to permit you being thrown into prison. There are limited avenues for the collection of any debt, I dare say bankruptcy and the loss of creditworthiness accompanied with the constant threat of the knock on the door is the only sanction available, for most that would be enough.

[salsmoss]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

This is a giant re herring as regards PCN's if anyone wants to take the trouble and read the case mentioned earlier in this thread they would see that the decriminalization of parking fines was done under statute, statute ensures that these charges are legally made, and therefore fully enforceable.

This is not a bargain or a contract, it is a penalty endorsed by legislation.

Well im still here after many many tickets unpaid, enforced with what gravytrain...prison

[Somecamel]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

I will give an educated guess on this

It is probably to do with the UK government trading and its debts

UK debt has a name, they are called Guilt's.

IN A SENSE, YOU ARE LENDING THE UK GOVERNMENT MONEY AND AS A SECURITY, IT ISSUES GUILT'S

The debt is a commodity to be traded, and to trade in the US, you have to be registered with the US Securities and Exchange Commission

Yes and Guess who's being used as that security:P

[gravytrain]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

This is a giant re herring as regards PCN's if anyone wants to take the trouble and read the case mentioned earlier in this thread they would see that the decriminalization of parking fines was done under statute, statute ensures that these charges are legally made, and therefore fully enforceable.

This is not a bargain or a contract, it is a penalty endorsed by legislation.

[leclerc]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

I will give an educated guess on this

It is probably to do with the UK government trading and its debts

UK debt has a name, they are called Guilt's.

IN A SENSE, YOU ARE LENDING THE UK GOVERNMENT MONEY AND AS A SECURITY, IT ISSUES GUILT'S

The debt is a commodity to be traded, and to trade in the US, you have to be registered with the US Securities and Exchange Commission

Follow the trail and it will give you the answer and you are probably correct. The PDF with that statement can be seen by yourself:

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/vp...9997-08-048874

[salsmoss]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

I will give an educated guess on this

It is probably to do with the UK government trading and its debts

UK debt has a name, they are called Guilt's.

IN A SENSE, YOU ARE LENDING THE UK GOVERNMENT MONEY AND AS A SECURITY, IT ISSUES GUILT'S

The debt is a commodity to be traded, and to trade in the US, you have to be registered with the US Securities and Exchange Commission

Trading for loss or profit lol think its time to get out and stop listening to CAB

[FORCEOFONE]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

Should we rephrase the whole question? Is the Government a Company? If so the answer is yes- they are registered on the Securities Exchange Commision- Discuss

http://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-ed...ion=getcompany

I will give an educated guess on this

It is probably to do with the UK government trading and its debts

UK debt has a name, they are called Guilt's.

IN A SENSE, YOU ARE LENDING THE UK GOVERNMENT MONEY AND AS A SECURITY, IT ISSUES GUILT'S

The debt is a commodity to be traded, and to trade in the US, you have to be registered with the US Securities and Exchange Commission

[salsmoss]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

Thank you for this, when it comes to pcn it is a fine for financial gain whether people believe it or not, and you dont have to do business with this company if you dont wish to. This why they changed to charge instead of fine as you cannot be fined before conviction, crafty buggers they are

[Somecamel]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

Should we rephrase the whole question? Is the Government a Company? If so the answer is yes- they are registered on the Securities Exchange Commision- Discuss

http://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-ed...ion=getcompany