You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

[FORCEOFONE]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

It is something i would like you to answer

In your OWN opinion

[GO84]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

Is that something you want me to say to him? Too late, he's blocked me again.

[FORCEOFONE]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

I will have a go at this on comments he has made

i AM NOT TAKING THE MICHAEL, JUST INTERESTED IN THIS DOGMA

Laws of commerce, if those laws are statutory, private contractual obligations do not apply if it transgresses statute. I say it all the time, a companies own T&C do not override statutory obligation.

I am curious as how you think you can separate contract law from statutory

Have you researched the term "legal personality"

I will ask a question

How were the law in England, and i use the term England for a very good reason,
first introduced to its subjects

[GO84]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

It's the comments I want you to read, I'm not asking you to watch the video again.

[gravytrain]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

Isn't this the same clip we have seen twice before on this thread.

By the way until LB makes you a modd, you cannot tell people not to post. (well you can but it will make no odds)

[GO84]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

I've just been talking to him in the comments of this video, take a look at what he says and tell me what you think http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntxu1nwP8m8

By the way, he might delete most of it like he did last time, so the comments might not be up there for long.

And to any wiseacres who just want to take the piss, just eff off and don't comment here. (apologies to those who think I'm using bad language, but we're adults here, aren't we?) If you find this thread boring now, don't read it!

[jon1965]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

When you read the website and watch the TV clip they have on there , some people do swear by it for getting out of debt. However my suspicion is that the creditors know it is unenforceable or the debtor hasn't got to pennies to rub together so off it goes round the houses to another DCA then another then another . I didn't read of anyone actually getting any money out of them
However never knock a good conspiracy theory

[FORCEOFONE]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

lets dispell some of the myths quoted

He is quite right that only a court of law can impose financial penalties under the law. Again 1689, Bill of Rights, UnCodified legislation and the English constitution.

Where i believe he slips up is where we now have civil penalties, not fines, but derived from primary legislation. Secondary or delegated legislation imposes this civil penalty. A bye law for dropping a cigarette end allows the council to impose a civil penalty, not sending in your self assessment tax form gives a civil penalty. Even the police can give one for drunken disorder.

All civil penalties have an appeal service.

I think people do need to do a bit more study and not rely on this FOTL to escape your obligations

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

TorquayTalkey ...google them,,they post videos about 'FMOL' basically,,they object to everything,,get evictions etc delayed but the end result is always the same,,they just delay the inevitable.

[gravytrain]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

May i ask how this FOTL infection has swept across the land

It goes against everything i have studied, I have looked into it and it is based on no logical fact or established common or civil law

His opinions are his own which i respect , but i think anyone who follows this doctrine will find their ivory towers will come crashing down

watched the video isnt it the same one at the beginning of this thread thought this one was better , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XTb3s1T_SU

I don't agree, many of his arguments are quite factual, his understanding of contract law seems to be sound, it just doesn't apply the way he thinks it does under the circumstances he is quoting.

However he is entitled to his opinion and actually seems like a reasonable kind of bloke IMO.

[GO84]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

I'm not 100% sure he has used the phrase "freeman of the land" but he says he's studied common law and the bill of rights.

[FORCEOFONE]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

May i ask how this FOTL infection has swept across the land

It goes against everything i have studied, I have looked into it and it is based on no logical fact or established common or civil law

His opinions are his own which i respect , but i think anyone who follows this doctrine will find their ivory towers will come crashing down

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

Well...that's gratitude for you.....only pointing out the glaringly obvious and I get berated by a cheeky whippersnapper.msl: I consider myself suitably chastised........whipped to within an inch of my life:whip:

:faint:

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

Then he's a fool, and there's a lot of them about who think they can flout the law and get away with it.

[GO84]

Re: You can't ignore parking fines, can you?

I totally agree. However he believes they're in the wrong to even issue tickets for parking on public property when there's no hazard. He parks without paying because he believes the land belongs to him (as well as everyone else) because of what he's read about common law and the bill of rights.