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  • #16
    Re: Need help understanding RLP

    Will there be any other consequences with regards to not paying them?

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    • #17
      Re: Need help understanding RLP

      Probably just 2-3 letters of the same as the first. If wish simply write back to them asking for evidence to prove there claim such as copy of cctv showing the alleged wrong doing, you might be surprised how little it shows or how poor quality ut maybe, ands if they actually have it or even send it.
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      • #18
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        Originally posted by Mintcar1 View Post
        I looked up the amounts that are generally demanded by RLP on the CAB report 'Uncivil Recovery' and I worked out I'll be charged with £137.50 as well as the cost of the items (due to their defaced nature).
        Not quite correct - RLP will try to invoice you for the retail value of the goods, which obviously exceeds the cost of the items to Tesco. As your alleged partner in crime will also be invoiced for the same goods in the same way, it should be immediately obvious that they are trying it on.

        If my parents and I refuse to pay this and seek a solicitor's advice, is it possible that I'm going to be taken to court and have the CCTV footage shown etc.?
        Yes, it is possible, but it is just about as probable as RLP's pet lawyer being struck dead by a falling meteorite on her way to court.

        And when the letter with the price on it does come through, will it come through with te evidence of the theft? Or just a letter demanding payment?
        It will be a letter printed badly on cheap paper with no watermark. It will demand payment and will come with a separate sheet of paper, printed on both sides, full of RLP's standard, quasi-legal flim-flam.

        Please see the attached files for an example of the rubbish they send.

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        • #19
          Re: Need help understanding RLP

          Originally posted by Mintcar1 View Post
          Will there be any other consequences with regards to not paying them?
          Yes, of course there will be.

          You will make RLP quite unhappy.

          They, in turn, will spend a few quid more sending further letters - please see the attached files for examples of their subsequent drivel.

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          • #20
            Re: Need help understanding RLP

            I see Tesco, like a number of larger retailers, is up to it's old tricks of trying to claim twice for the same item, something that is totally illegal. They and RLP must think people are stupid if they think they can get away with it.
            Life is a journey on which we all travel, sometimes together, but never alone.

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            • #21
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              I'm wondering how CC managed to get a complete set of the RLP threats!

              Could it be that he sacrificed his hitherto unblemished record to secure this valuable evidence?

              If so, respect!

              Definitely above & beyond!

              Ps you couldn't liberate an X-box for me, could you?
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              • #22
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                "There - but for the grace of God - go I..."

                .....go all of us.
                ------------------------------- merged -------------------------------
                Let's face it. The way things are going, we are all being reduced to 'dirty nickers' - just to b100dy survive. Who did the dirty, first, though ? Wasn't us, was it ?
                Last edited by Bill-K; 13th April 2012, 21:50:PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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                • #23
                  Re: Need help understanding RLP

                  Originally posted by charitynjw View Post
                  I'm wondering how CC managed to get a complete set of the RLP threats!

                  Could it be that he sacrificed his hitherto unblemished record to secure this valuable evidence?

                  If so, respect!

                  Definitely above & beyond!

                  Ps you couldn't liberate an X-box for me, could you?
                  :rofl:

                  The answer, of course, is rather humdrum - I scanned them for fitzy and, having redacted all personal data, I posted them to his thread.

                  Once I've laminated a few of my snaps, I'll send them and the RLP letters back to him.
                  ------------------------------- merged -------------------------------
                  Originally posted by Bill-K View Post
                  Let's face it. The way things are going, we are all being reduced to 'dirty nickers' - just to b100dy survive.
                  My knickers aren't dirty.
                  Last edited by CleverClogs; 13th April 2012, 21:59:PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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                  • #24
                    Re: Need help understanding RLP

                    Originally posted by bluebottle View Post
                    I see Tesco, like a number of larger retailers, is up to it's old tricks of trying to claim twice for the same item, something that is totally illegal. They and RLP must think people are stupid if they think they can get away with it.
                    Might they have a viable excuse if neither party pays them anything?

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                    • #25
                      Re: Need help understanding RLP

                      Yes and does it cost twice as much to process two miscreants at the same time?

                      if so

                      Does it cost six times as much for half a dozen or do you get a multipack discount

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                      • #26
                        Re: Need help understanding RLP

                        Does this mean RLP should BOGOF (Bother One, Get One Free) or just bugger off?

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                        • #27
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                          there are other ways bar stealing hun!!

                          but all the same they do charge ridiculous amounts, if it was just the £13 and a smack on the wrists id say so be it, but these companies want more and its totally uncalled for

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                          • #28
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                            Originally posted by CleverClogs View Post
                            Does this mean RLP should BOGOF (Bother One, Get One Free) or just bugger off?
                            Both! LOL!
                            Life is a journey on which we all travel, sometimes together, but never alone.

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                            • #29
                              Re: Need help understanding RLP

                              Ok, here we go,

                              Having worked in the retail loss prevention industry for some years i feel that my reponse here may not be welcome - but I have worked with RLP since their initial "pilot scheme" in the midlands. The idea behind Civil recovery is for retailer to recover their losses direct from wrongdoers (which i think is right!) Although i do sympathise with a 16 year old being silly/bowing to peer pressure etc, i also feel that it is important that there are real consequences for their criminal actions, thus ensuring that there is a real "deterrent" against repeat behavior. Now lets face it, without the actions of RLP there have been no real implications here for the offender (and i feel that she has been very lucky not to have been arrested and prosecuted), and a lot of the threads on here make out that there should be no punishment.

                              Retailers are forced to spend thousands and thousands of pounds annually on CCTV systems, EAS equipment, manned guarding, training etc to prevent theft. This is all money that could be spent employing extra staff to give customers a better shopping experience (Not to mention creating jobs!), and bring prices down. I wonder if you would all be so sympathetic and defensive to this offenders RLP bill which will probable be around £250.00 if we had to pay it for her........................ WELL GUESS WHAT - YOU DO!!!!!!! ***the average household annual shopping bill is £120.00 more expensive due to retailers trying to recover lossess caused by shop-theft!

                              Try to look at this from the other side:

                              Shop-theft has the following effects:


                              *Reduces pay for retail staff (Even redundancies due to lack of profit!)
                              *Less staff employed to assist YOU and ensure you are served quickily
                              *Higher prices at the checkout for YOU
                              *Disciplinaries for poor performing managers/staff
                              *Lack of availability of stock for YOU
                              *Wasting of police time
                              .................................................. ...The list goes on and on so lets get real here - any deterrent is welcome to me................................. or maybe we should get her home to a nice cup of cocoa and a cuddle for the terrible experience she's had at the hands of Tesco!

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                              • #30
                                Re: Need help understanding RLP

                                do you think its fair for a mother who has a screaming toddler who inadvertingly forgets a small item to pay, then stopped by over enthusiastic security staff?

                                offers to pay for the product refused, let go with no charge from police etc, then a few weeks later receives a letter from your rip off company charging them for an error beyond her control?

                                But there again what ever anyone says Companies like yours don.t even stop to think or even look at the circumstances behind this? its all about scamming the general public for your own pockets. and just how much commission did you make for every penny you took from unsuspecting member of the public who through no fault of thier own (kiddies picking up sweets as they know no better) a depressed person who has had bad news and has a memory lapse, an elderly person with the onset of dementia ?

                                its not punishing the law brerakers that is what the police are for, its all to do with making a company profit scamming the innocent (resons laied out above.)
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