Advice for a friend

[freemanontheland]

Hello

I am seeking advice for a friend:

If someone is in the process of moving from one company that supplies domestic customers to another and has had one meter switched over(but not the other one) and has an outstanding bill from the old company can the old company:
(a) get a court order from a magistrate allowing them access to the property and if this is so
(b) Once the meters are switched over to the new company will the court order still be valid or not?

Thanks for your help.

Freeman on the land

[Amy]

Re: Advice for a friend

I'm not sure I understand.

Do you mean a court order for access to be granted to a bailiff or the supplying company?

Has there been a court case and/or a fine?

[freemanontheland]

Re: Advice for a friend

Okay

Sorry for any confusion.

The situation is that they have written to her threatening to go to the magistrates court and get a court order so that the baliffs can get access to her property(with the aid of the police if necessary).

So far she just has the outstanding bill but has not been taken to court as of yet. There is no fine at present.

Hope this makes sense.

Freeman on the land.

[Amethyst]

Re: Advice for a friend

Has she tried to make an arrangement with the original company to repay the outstanding debt ?

[Amy]

Re: Advice for a friend

The situation is that they have written to her threatening to go to the magistrates court and get a court order so that the baliffs can get access to her property(with the aid of the police if necessary).

On what grounds? If this is simply non payment of a bill then as far as I'm aware that is not a criminal offence, at least not yet. This would be a civil offence and as such would be dealt with by the county court. The only way a bailiff would become involved then, is if she received a CCJ and subsequently failed to adhere to the judgment and make the payments ordered.

So far she just has the outstanding bill but has not been taken to court as of yet. There is no fine at present.

Write to them and point this out to them and in the meantime try and set up a repayment plan, if possible. Even if it's not possible and she's taken to court she will have to pay something. So it's easier if she does it now.

[Smudgek3]

Re: Advice for a friend

I thought a freeman on the land would see how wrong this information is!
If you read the guide to bailiffs on this site you will see that information is given stating a bailiff seizing property for council tax, parking fines and other gov based fees can break into the debtors house this is totally untrue! and would be a criminal offence for causing loss and harassment to the debtor.

As a freeman myself (tried and tested) you will know they are writing to the fiction 'person' and not to your friend she should let them take it to a court then simply put the fiction i.e. birth cert in the dock and claim common law jurisdiction..
The magistrates will try many tactics to get her under their jurisdiction but so long as she remains seated and out of the dock there admiral law cannot touch her, she must be peaceful and polite through-out.

[Caspar]

Re: Advice for a friend

I thought a freeman on the land would see how wrong this information is!
If you read the guide to bailiffs on this site you will see that information is given stating a bailiff seizing property for council tax, parking fines and other gov based fees can break into the debtors house this is totally untrue! and would be a criminal offence for causing loss and harassment to the debtor.

As a freeman myself (tried and tested) you will know they are writing to the fiction 'person' and not to your friend she should let them take it to a court then simply put the fiction i.e. birth cert in the dock and claim common law jurisdiction..
The magistrates will try many tactics to get her under their jurisdiction but so long as she remains seated and out of the dock there admiral law cannot touch her, she must be peaceful and polite through-out.

Smudgek3 - I am sorry. I have a vast interest in common law, but people like you honestly give it a very bad name. You clearly have not read the very helpful bailiffs guide on here as what you state is not only totally inaccurate, but a total insult to the person who spent a lot of time writing it for other peoples' benefit.

Please try to at least get basic facts correct before posting anything else as your remarks undermine the aim of this site and are a total waste of peoople's time when they could be dealing with real problems.

By the way, I know a vast amount about Common Law - you appear to have read the first page of the beginners guide to it.

Sorry to be so blunt, but there we go!