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MBNA PPI Claim Response - Advice Needed ...

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  • MBNA PPI Claim Response - Advice Needed ...

    Hi all

    Helping a friend with various financial issues, notably a PPI claim for an old credit card account held with MBNA. The attached letter below confirms that they are aware that the card was taken out in May 2003 and PPI was added at this inception. It also states the cardholder received at least three years credit card statements showing that PPI premiums were charged to the account.

    It also states that the cardholder failed to make the complaint within the correct time limits as set out by the FCA and. as such, they are not required to consider a complaint if the sale took place over six years ago ( see that reference under 'Findings'.

    The cardholder has managed to retain one statement that confirms a PPI premium was added to the account. He also states that the application was made on line and does not remember or agreeing to ticking a box requesting PPI cover. Also for the whole period that the card was held, he ran a business on a self employed basis in partnership with his wife, so the inclusion of PPI would probably not have covered self employed earnings.

    As for the delay in finding a statement confirming a PPI premium payment, this has only just come to light, along with other 'chasing' correspondence, that has been returned to him following repossession of his property in the summer of 2008.

    The other thorn in the equation that I see here is that the card balance, which was in excess of £10K, was subject to an IVA agreement that did not return 100% of the debt ( do they ever? ). My thinking is that any potential settlement may simply be 'evaporated' by the lender towards any losses incurred in the IVA. Does that make sense?

    Appreciate any advice please on how to respond to this letter ( bearing in mind at least one statement has now come to light ), in particular the FCA time constraints that their decision appears to hinge on. All input thankfully received !
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    Re: MBNA PPI Claim Response - Advice Needed ...

    It also states that the cardholder failed to make the complaint within the correct time limits as set out by the FCA and. as such, they are not required to consider a complaint if the sale took place over six years ago ( see that reference under 'Findings'.
    They are also required to consider complaints ''three years from the date on which the complainant became aware (or ought reasonably to have become aware) that he had cause for complaint''.

    https://www.handbook.fca.org.uk/handbook/DISP/2/8.html

    But MBNA could argue that the cardholder ought reasonably to have become aware he had PPI from their statements at the time. You could go to the FOS but it's a bit of a long shot.

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    • #3
      Re: MBNA PPI Claim Response - Advice Needed ...

      Please note this thread is awaiting the addition of the MBNA letter which should be later today! Thanks all ... uersmiley:

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        Re: MBNA PPI Claim Response - Advice Needed ...

        Here are the letters in question!
        Attached Files

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          Re: MBNA PPI Claim Response - Advice Needed ...

          Hi EXC and thank you for the response ...

          I have now added the first two pages of the MBNA letter as links above. I wonder if you could please cast an eye over them and comment further, as and if necessary, please. That would be appreciated.

          Cheers ! :stars:

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            Re: MBNA PPI Claim Response - Advice Needed ...

            Another example that PPI claims are not one size fits all.

            The reason for complaint of "did not know PPI was there" is far too easy for the banks to defend. They just have to produce a statement, letter, call recording - anything that can demonstrate knowledge and they have a defence. Anyway, stable doors and spilt milk aside, you still have options but they are now limited.

            The only way the FOS will overturn the timebar decision is if you can demonstrate that the statement entries did not make it clear that PPI was being added. So for example, if the statement entry said "Payment Protection Insurance" you would not have any argument. But if the entry said "PPP charge" or "Paymentcare", you would have an argument that it is unclear what this actually is.

            The second issue is the additional correspondence that MBNA state they sent.
            a. did they send it to your correct address and if they did
            b. was it made clear that paymet protection insurance was added to your card. Most of the junk mail did not make it clear - it just tried to sell you more products or a higher credit limit.

            So I would do 2 things before going to FOS.

            1. Ask MBNA to tell you exactly how the PPI was itemised on your statements and that any entry specifically stated "payment protection insurance".
            2. Ask MBNA to provide proof that they sent mailings to your correct address at the time AND ask them for copies of what was sent so you can check they made it absolutely clear that PPI was added to your card.

            I know from experience that MBNA will struggle to do these things and by virtue of you querying this, they will know you have more knowledge than most DIY claimants - so they may uphold. Otherwise go to FOS with your arguments for why the presence of PPI was ambiguous or unclear.

            If you need more assistance after speaking with MBNA then put another post on here and RH will try to help. PPI can be an easy DIY claim as chatrooms like this one portray. But often claims that seem easy need more knowledge - like this one!!

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