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Claim against landlord/me for unpaid tenant bills by DCA of Insolvent Orbit Energy

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  • #16
    1. Even though they do not handle the account anymore, do they still not have an obligation to provide me with any data pertaining to myself under the GDPR.

    Alvarez and Marsal should be able to tell you exactly who has all the data under your name / account.
    As for BSB, they are debt mainly debt collectors, so won't be given all data / information.


    2. If No, do they not have an obligation to request such data from the current holder, or owner of the account and send it to me, or at least direct them to send it to me.

    Yes, they should pass on your communications to their client and respond back to you.

    3. If No, do they have the obligation to at least provide me with the details of the new holder, and how to request my data from the.

    Yes, you would think that they would know whats going on.

    4. If No to all, is it still worth reporting them to the ICO for not providing a response in writing within the 30 days required, to see if the ICO can force there hand to do the needful.

    Not at this stage, put a 'hold' on that.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by echat11 View Post
      1. Even though they do not handle the account anymore, do they still not have an obligation to provide me with any data pertaining to myself under the GDPR.

      Alvarez and Marsal should be able to tell you exactly who has all the data under your name / account.
      As for BSB, they are debt mainly debt collectors, so won't be given all data / information.


      2. If No, do they not have an obligation to request such data from the current holder, or owner of the account and send it to me, or at least direct them to send it to me.

      Yes, they should pass on your communications to their client and respond back to you.

      3. If No, do they have the obligation to at least provide me with the details of the new holder, and how to request my data from the.

      Yes, you would think that they would know whats going on.

      4. If No to all, is it still worth reporting them to the ICO for not providing a response in writing within the 30 days required, to see if the ICO can force there hand to do the needful.

      Not at this stage, put a 'hold' on that.
      Thanks for this.

      I have now recieved a hearing date from the court. Its the 15th of January.

      What is the latest I have to submit my witness statement to the court for the hearing?

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      • #18
        Originally posted by masterchij View Post

        Thanks for this.

        I have now recieved a hearing date from the court. Its the 15th of January.

        What is the latest I have to submit my witness statement to the court for the hearing?
        You should receive Orders from the Court, i.e. one of the points would be that parties exchange Witness Statements 14 days before the Hearing etc.

        https://legalbeagles.info/forums/for...ess-statement/

        Posted for information only - https://hallellis.co.uk/preparing-witness-statements/

        You don't want to be panicking, so start it in the next few days, you just need some headings for structure, short paragraphs, number points and pages. Cross reference evidence in the Witness Statement.

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        • #19
          There has been an interesting development


          Alvarez and Marsal have replied stating that they have passed back all the Orbit energy data back to the Orbit Energy directors after they completed the administration process in Nov 2023, thereby handing back the reins of the company to Orbit Energy.(see attached)

          As Orbit Energy are now back from administration, does any debt collector have the grounds to collect debt on their behalf on the premise of them being "in administration"?

          if so, does this mean that TM Legal/Perch Capital cannot bring a claim against me, and any such claim has to be from Orbit energy directly?

          Am I over thinking this?
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          • #20
            Originally posted by echat11 View Post

            You should receive Orders from the Court, i.e. one of the points would be that parties exchange Witness Statements 14 days before the Hearing etc.

            https://legalbeagles.info/forums/for...ess-statement/

            Posted for information only - https://hallellis.co.uk/preparing-witness-statements/

            You don't want to be panicking, so start it in the next few days, you just need some headings for structure, short paragraphs, number points and pages. Cross reference evidence in the Witness Statement.
            Thanks again for your reply. Very helpful.

            I have already started working on my witness statement, but awaiting any information from the SAR that might work in my favour before I can close it out.

            I am guessing the 14 for witness statements also applies to hearings for a set aside judgement.

            Please can you look at my latest post in the thread and see if you can advise, its a new development from today.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by masterchij View Post
              There has been an interesting development


              Alvarez and Marsal have replied stating that they have passed back all the Orbit energy data back to the Orbit Energy directors after they completed the administration process in Nov 2023, thereby handing back the reins of the company to Orbit Energy.(see attached)

              As Orbit Energy are now back from administration, does any debt collector have the grounds to collect debt on their behalf on the premise of them being "in administration"?

              if so, does this mean that TM Legal/Perch Capital cannot bring a claim against me, and any such claim has to be from Orbit energy directly?

              Am I over thinking this?
              Orbit has come out of Administration in November 2023, but prior to that, they must of sold off the accounts which are in debt to Perch Capital. Perch Capital is the Claimant. Orbit's accounts without debt were moved to Scottish Power.

              I think that's what happened. Alvarez and Marsal might be able to clear that up.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by masterchij View Post

                Thanks again for your reply. Very helpful.

                I have already started working on my witness statement, but awaiting any information from the SAR that might work in my favour before I can close it out.

                I am guessing the 14 for witness statements also applies to hearings for a set aside judgement.

                Please can you look at my latest post in the thread and see if you can advise, its a new development from today.
                I think this is the best course of action.

                'I am guessing the 14 for witness statements also applies to hearings for a set aside judgement'

                Getting your data has been problematic because customers weren't informed where to go to locate their own account data.

                Before you request a set a side, ring the Court, if there is a back log / holidays, it might get postponed by the Court.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by echat11 View Post

                  Orbit has come out of Administration in November 2023, but prior to that, they must of sold off the accounts which are in debt to Perch Capital. Perch Capital is the Claimant. Orbit's accounts without debt were moved to Scottish Power.

                  I think that's what happened. Alvarez and Marsal might be able to clear that up.
                  I have replied A&M asking them to clarify who sold "my Orbit energy account" to perch Capital. I have also asked them to provide an email address and contact for the Orbit Energy directors the company was handed back to, so I can get a SAR.

                  Is it worth issuing an SAR to Perch Capital as well

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by masterchij View Post

                    I have replied A&M asking them to clarify who sold "my Orbit energy account" to perch Capital. I have also asked them to provide an email address and contact for the Orbit Energy directors the company was handed back to, so I can get a SAR.

                    Is it worth issuing an SAR to Perch Capital as well
                    Good, getting account data so important.

                    Yes, send Perch Capital a SAR, it's costs nothing, you might get more evidence on how they've handled you account.

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