Speeding

[SV007]

I have received two notices from the police with intention to prosecute both Motorway Camera same Journey one Greater Manchester Police - One West Yorkshire Police. 81MPH in a 70 bit keen but yes its speeding , the other which is a concern is 91mph however state even though a motorway, Limit is 60. I have a DR10 and 3 points from October 2022. My concern now is a driving ban is looming. This was the same journey , the time is 31 minutes apart in mitigation can you ask they be treated as one offence, the 81 i would have thought is 3 points , the 91 is either a ban or an accumulation that could take me to 12 points. I will represent myself if i need to go to court, apology , road conditions clear good little traffic 7.30am. what do you feel is the best course of action send both responses immediately, driver awareness i think is out attended one circa five years ago , any advice would be helpful

[islandgirl]

Here are the guidelines - you can work out the points!
https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk...-revised-2017/
No you cannot have them treated as one offence
Road conditions and no traffic cut no ice, sorry.
Hopefully Handandy our expert will be along to advise...

[SV007]

Thank you for the response.

Time has now moved on , the first offence West Yorkshire Police I did attend a driver awareness course so no points , however the 91 mph Offence on the same day in august , admitted being the driver at 91 mph , had a letter stating intend to prosecute but heard nothing sine expires 7feb 2025, so surely by now should have had a hearing date, what do i do sit tight and hope it becomes time barred, or is it no the courts are full to brimming and you will be notified but runs out in six weeks - Happy days !! any feedback would be appreciated

[Manxman]

They often start proceedings just before the 6 months expires. It's that that is important. The hearing date could be weeks or even months later

If you are saying that your offence times out on 07 February 2025 you can't be certain you've got away with it until 7 - 10 days later and you've heard nothing

[SV007]

Manxman , thank you for that firstly i know its not six months and time barred, however if NOT commenced proceedings within six months and that date expires 07th February 2025 then it is time barred , is that the case. Second question had a letter months ago saying it would be dealt with via the Courts , how can i check if they have advised the court , i have got the computer link via the notice of intended prosecution las update is months ago when i admitted to being the driver, surely by now five months in i would have heard something further Whats your thoughts ?

[SV007]

Manxman , thank you for that firstly i know its not six months and time barred, however if NOT commenced proceedings within six months and that date expires 07th February 2025 then it is time barred , is that the case. Second question had a letter months ago saying it would be dealt with via the Courts , how can i check if they have advised the court , i have got the computer link via the notice of intended prosecution las update is months ago when i admitted to being the driver, surely by now five months in i would have heard something further Whats your thoughts ?

Ah reading your reply again you say they only start the proceedings just before six months is up thats the common procedure , seems a bit sinister to me that tatic, on a seperate matter i know only have 3 points , so even if they give me six more 91 on the motorway when limit was reduced to 60 that wouldnt be a ban , just read a case regarding a well known footballer , similar situation two offences in three days but already had 3 points , judge gave him six points for doing 85 in a 50 , meant he had 12 then banned him for 56days, my case is different only have three points, any further comments would be useful, i am thinking "out the woods " but evidently not

[islandgirl]

You are cerainly looking at 6 points for 91 in a 60 but could get a ban anyway (not as a totter but in its own right) The guidelines say Disqualify for 7 to 56 days OR 6 points - have a look (link on my previous post).

[Manxman]

Ah reading your reply again you say they only start the proceedings just before six months is up thats the common procedure , seems a bit sinister to me that tatic, ...

Nothing sinister at all. They have up to 6 months and they often take all of the permitted time. What's wrong with that?

You won't know if they've done so until a week or two after the deadline has expired. If you know for certain the court where it would be heard I suppose you could contcat the court and ask. But I wouldn't do so until after the 6 months has passed. Better to wait and see what comes through the post - there's nothing you can do now to influence matters except remind the police they need to do something!

Regarding the likely outcome, pay attention to islandgirl