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Defence written "without prejudice" - will a small claims court judge accept this?

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  • #46
    Thanks for the update. So far it is looking promising.
    I'm just not sure now who decides if the expert witness need to attend the hearing
    3 hours or all day? That's a lot of extra time for the expert to present his report and answer questions. I assume the defendant could end up paying the expert if you win your claim. Did the judge mention how the expert's fees are paid?

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    • #47
      The time for the Defendants to ask questions of the Expert has now passed.

      The Defendants chose not to ask the Expert any questions -even though the District Judge at the Preliminary Hearing hinted strongly to them that they could. Reading between the lines, if they had any criticisms of the report they needed to address these directly to the Expert himself, so he can explain more fully.

      The Defendants did not avail themselves of that opportunity (possibly because they thought that the Expert's answers would be unhelpful in any event ).

      This means that the CPR35- compliant Expert Report is now uncontroverted.

      If the Defendant wants the Expert present at trial, this would cost £642 in Expert fees & they would need to seek the courts permission first.

      I am presuming I would resist this request on the basis that the Defendants haven't even asked written questions & bringing an expert to a small claim hearing is rare and not necess in the present case. .

      The district judge assigned my £415 that I had already paid out for the Expert report as "court costs"










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      • #48
        It is very unlikely the defendant will request the expert witness to attend the hearing. They missed their opportunity to pose set questions. The judge is almost certain to refuse such a request. The cost of an additional £642 is prohibitive too

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        • #49
          Update:

          Despite the DJ giving the Defendant's until 15th Sept to ask the Expert questions - the local court took 1.5 months to send out the printed orders. So the net result was the Defendant was given a further 1.5months to ask the Expert questions until 29th Oct - which they haven't done at all ( I emailed the court to say there were no questions asked by the Defendant.).

          So the Expert Report is now well & truly uncontroverted.

          The Defendant is now ignoring my emailed offers to settle/and other correspondence - i.e. including my offer return of the whole caravan at significantly less than what it ought to be worth.

          Therefore I am now turning to look at preparing the Witness Statement plus exhibits which must be filed and served 14 days prior to trial on 6th Jan 2025. My WS plus Exhibits will the printed out copies and served/filed as hard copies.

          My Questions please:-

          (1) how is it best to deliver this hard copy to the court (post/in person at the door?)

          (2) The Defendant does not seem to do letters!. I do not wish the Defendant to simply email out to me a load of files/docs for the trial as this will simply be irritating and then i have to print them all out. I sent a letter by regular post (in Aug 2024) to the Defendant stating that I "no longer accept service by email." Will this suffice to ensure I get a hard copy of the Defendant's Witness Statement & Exhibits and not a load of annoying electronic files?

          JK2054 stated today at #2 "You can serve by email and/or post so long as party hasn't specifically said by post."

          https://legalbeagles.info/forums/for...s-and-to-court

          But my understanding of reading various caselaw and (CPR Part 6?) is that the default is "by post" and only if the other party agrees in writing can it be by email - but please correct me if I'm wrong.

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          • #50
            P.S. I also sent hard copies of my offers to the Defendant - so they actually get both post/email for most of the docs I send them.

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            • #51
              I personally would send the documents by Royal Mail Signed For to the court and first class post with receipt as proof of postage to the defendant. The postman may not be able to deliver Signed For post to the defendant
              You were correct to write to the defendant stating you can no longer receive emails and attachments. Allowance must be made for internet connection problems and for the internet service being completely cut off

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              • #52
                Many Thanks.

                Just to confirm the letter I sent to the Defendant saying that I "no longer accept service by email" - was sent by post and email, so that's good.

                The Defendant seems to be disregarding anything I say and he gives the air of arrogance/disdain for me.
                I don't put it past him to ignore my request for hard copies and simply email out the stuff (assuming he sends anything to me and not just to the court, which he has been doing in the past). But I guess, it's best to deal with this scenario if it comes to pass.

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                • #53
                  IMPORTANT: URGENT- update - Is the Defendant directors' joint witness statement admissible at court? It has been jointly written and jointly signed by the directors and is also 1 day out-of-time.

                  Ok - facts first

                  1) The Case is against a caravan dealership Ltd company involving a very faulty caravan with badly cracking panels due to an internal frame fault. Trial date 6th Jan 2025 - small claims court
                  2)The court order following a preliminary hearing (dated 1st Oct 2024) was for service of witness statements "no less than 14 days before trial date"
                  3) So if I am not mistaken, deemed service (two days after posting hard copies ) must be by Friday 20th Dec. Therefore, the last posting date must be 18th Dec 2024 (first class).
                  4) I filed my Witness statement and Exhibits (hard copies) by hand at court midday 16th Dec 2024 - the court informs me it has been filed.
                  5) I posted my full Witness statement plus exhibits (hard copies) on 18th Dec 2024 (tracked 24 "signed for" - I didn't mean to send "signed for" but the post office did it without asking me or me realising at the time). The Defendants received it and signed for the package (luckily!) on 19th Dec 2024. So deemed service on 20th Dec.
                  6) On 19th Dec, presumably having read my WS, Defendant's then cobbled together a statement. But their "statement" is more of a criticism of the Expert Report [ The Defendant failed to ask the Expert any questions at all when the judge allowed them time to do so].
                  7) The Defendant posted this "Statement" out to me on 19th Dec (I made clear twice I would only receive service by post - so at least they honoured this bit!); It was sent tracked 24 (no signature) .
                  8) It arrived today 21st Dec i.e. 1 day out of time.
                  9) I'm wondering if the Defendant's hard copy (~50 pages) to the court will also arrive out of time (I live not far from the court - so postage times may well be similar).

                  And here's the extra BUT

                  10) BUT the Defendant's " Statement" (it doesn't use the term "witness Statement") is headed jointly from BOTH DIRECTORS and both directors have signed at the bottom after a single statement of truth.

                  11) So by definition, they are making identical statements word for word.

                  12) However only one of those directors runs the business on a day to day basis - so the other director does not have first hand knowledge of anything (he runs another business)

                  So my questions please are :

                  How will the court view (and thus how best should I deal with):-

                  a) the tardiness of the Defendants (joint) Statement?
                  b) the fact that it is a joint Defendant's statement signed by both directors with a single statement of truth- is this permissible?
                  c) the fact that the Defendant has just used it to run down the Expert and his report and then gone on to express their own opinions (which they have done in abundance). Even though WSs should be about facts and only facts within one's own knowledge.

                  Any assistance as I approach the trial date itself is most welcome by me.

                  Thanking you in advance

                  Last edited by MaryS57; Today, 13:34:PM.

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                  • #54
                    IMO you should leave the timing and quantity of the defendant's witness statement up to the judge to decide whether it is admissible. The case is on the small claims track and the judge has more authority to make decisions about procedure
                    You should prepare your questions for the cross examination of the witness.
                    Important that you question why the defendant failed to raise concerns and questions regarding the expert report in their defence

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                    • #55
                      Ok thanks - as long as justice prevails in the end, but none of this is easy to stomach.

                      The Defendant has helpfully quoted from the Expert Report where it says the cracking is a known manufacturing fault. This hopefully will remind the judge of what the Expert Report is actually saying (and not on the defendant's criticisms that follow these quotes - especially as the Defendant did not ask the Expert any questions at all when given the opportunity).

                      The Defendant has also included at length "without prejudice" correspondence (regarding offers from both sides) in their witness statement/exhibits - par for the course with this Defendant.

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